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justin18
May 26, 2010, 4:23pm Report to Moderator

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hi,
i have recently had grinding noises from my spitfire i bought a WEEK ago!! and did a simple test of pushing clutch in and found the crank pulley moved substanually forward when it was in?is this a definate check?and is the only option nw to replace bottom end and block??

cheers justin
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willcolumbine
May 26, 2010, 4:54pm Report to Moderator

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I guess the first question to ask is what do you mean by 'substantial' - how much did it move by?


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justin18
May 26, 2010, 5:27pm Report to Moderator

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maybe a good half inch?
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thescrapman
May 26, 2010, 5:32pm Report to Moderator

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1mm is very bad. 1/2 inch is terminal.

Basic rule when pulling back and forth on the crank pulley looking for movement.

Hear it, need to think about investigating
Feel it, you really should have investigated it
see it, too late.

I would say they were long gone before you got it.

Best line up a replacement immediately, assuming it isn't the pulley that has come  loose.

Cheers

Colin


Confuscious he say - To get caught out once is miserable bad luck, to get caught again is just downright fu**king stupid.

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Tom2000
May 26, 2010, 5:35pm Report to Moderator


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Quoted from justin18
maybe a good half inch?


My brother bought a MKIV off ebay, thrush washers had gone badly on that and it moved probably alittle more than yours, when it gets bad though you'll smell burning clutch alot!
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justin18
May 26, 2010, 5:53pm Report to Moderator

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a think ill just have to try line up a new block and bottom end and get it transferred in before it causes more damage. anyone know the best place to try get one?preferably up near north east?
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Tom2000
May 26, 2010, 6:10pm Report to Moderator


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Anglian Triumph supplied my brothers which was about 150-200 i think, or I have a fully rebuilt engine in my garage for not much more
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stillnotfinnished
May 26, 2010, 8:52pm Report to Moderator


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hi what size engine have you got, ive got a bare 1500 block and the bottom half of a 1300 doly engine taking up space
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Martyn GT6
May 27, 2010, 9:05am Report to Moderator


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Hi Justin18, where in the North east are you? Willow Triumph near Darlington might have something, Give Tim a call on 01325 313033.

Cheers

Martyn


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mikeyb
May 27, 2010, 8:35pm Report to Moderator

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bloody 'ell, just weighed in a 1500 block & bottom end!


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stillnotfinnished
May 27, 2010, 8:48pm Report to Moderator


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how much you get for it mikeyb?


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thescrapman
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Quoted from stillnotfinnished
how much you get for it mikeyb?


Well after he had filled the sump with wet sand rather more than he should have i suspect..

Colin


Confuscious he say - To get caught out once is miserable bad luck, to get caught again is just downright fu**king stupid.

Shadenfreude expert and collector of assorted rusty Triumphs on the Essex/Suffolk Border.

2010, 2011 and 2013 CT Navigators Championship winner.

10CR 2005, 2007, 2009, 2011 2013 - RBRR 1990, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012 - Nachtrit 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2012 - Chinese rally 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 - HCR 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 (3rd place), 2014.

On the road.
1968 Spitfire Mk3��: 1970 Mk2 2.5PI : 1972 Mk2 2000 manual (The Basildon Banger)
Off the road
1967 Moss Monaco (Mk1 GT6 based) : 1970 Spitfire Mk4 : 1970 Mk2 2000 auto : 1968 Mk1 2.5PI 1968 : 1964 Mk1 2000
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mikeyb
May 28, 2010, 8:08am Report to Moderator

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quite a lot - but it was sitting in an Mx5 shell with lots of other rubbish from behind my garage, totalling 1.3T  


http://triumphandadversity.blogspot.com
http://mikeyb.weebly.com/

CT Drivers Challenge Champ '08 '09
CT Drivers Champ '12

Serial Triumph Offender, maxed out at 25 few years ago!
Current Triumph count 17 16 15 14 13 14 12 13 12 13 14

On the road:
67 Mk3 Spit - been too many places to list!
72 Stag - Nachrict Nov '07 & '09, Mar '10, 10CR '09, 11,LCC '10
76 Sprint - RBRR 2010 finisher, many Road Rallies, Nachrict Mar '11, HCR'11, Little Devils '11
64 Herald Rally Car - 2 autotest, 8 Rally Sprints, 3 Road Rallies, HCR '09, 4 Autosolo, Cadwell Track Day
67 GT6 Mk1

Broken:
72 Mk2 PI with TR6 engine - Nachrict Feb & Nov '06, Nachrict Feb '07, HCR '08, RBRR '08, LCC '07, '08, '09

NY Res2013

1) Sell a fewmoderns
2) Mend my Triumphs
3) Drive them lots
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Pete Lewis
May 28, 2010, 4:08pm Report to Moderator

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think if you have 1/2" its more than just thrusters,even if thet have dropped out (very common)  but if the crank has worn away its thrust face you need a new crank or get the faces metal sprayed and reground( not always successful but worth a thought)
if themain bearing cap lugsare  worn away by the crank then you can normally repair the bearing cap by welding a new lug on its face and fettling down to size, it only holds/stops the thrust from falling out,it takes no hard load,does little work apart from washer retention.
if the crank has worn away the thrust washer location face then the block is stuffed unless you are a magician  

you can get the sump off with the engine in the car to examine the main bearing caps .and crank thrust faces

Pete


1964 1600 Vitesse 6 Cactus and Black , now  sold
now have T2000   Mk2 saloon in French Blue/grey trim  been stored without running since 1997 so needs some shake dawn.
location  Luton
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