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John Bonnett
August 11, 2016, 8:06pm Report to Moderator

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I've been told that because the G15 is fitted with Triumph Spitfire front suspension it qualifies for inclusion in this section. I hope that is the case and that this thread doesn't offend anybody.

We collected the car yesterday from Sutton in Ashfield north of Nottingham; a round trip of 530 miles. It took two hours to load the truck because of the magnitude of Imp blocks, engines, gearboxes and cylinder heads. Not to mention the boxes of assorted bits many of which i haven't a clue what they are.

I was pleasantly surprised by the condition of the body and the chassis which is a replacement supplied by the factory over twenty years ago. The car has never been together in the tenure of the current owner who bought it in pieces more or less as it is at the moment. No, that's a bit unfair because he bought many new parts including the Revolution wheels and set of Dunlops and the sunroof has been filed in very nicely. Sorting through the stuff today I came across some real gems; new seat harnesses, front calipers, new lamps and engine cover hinges as well as other goodies.

Once I've catalogued and stowed everything I can turn my attention to the chassis. I understand that there are some inherent weaknesses which can be addressed by welding in gussets and stiffeners. The body is only held with two bolts and two people can lift it so I'm not expecting too much trouble in getting it off. More to follow.



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Alex
August 11, 2016, 8:53pm Report to Moderator

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I'm liking that John!
Looking forward to a new build thread......please don't go to fast though as it makes me feel inferior  


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Nick Jones
August 11, 2016, 10:47pm Report to Moderator

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Lovely shape the G15.  Good project and very different materials from the last!

Cheers

Nick


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GT6 Mk3 Roto - project in waiting
Spitfire MKIV resto nearly complete (consultant only - son's project)
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John Bonnett
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Do you know, I wouldn't dream of saying this on the GOC but i cannot believe how crude it all is. The steering column is attached to a flimsy bit of angle by an exhaust clamp and the suspension towers can almost be pushed together. The wishbone mounts are non adjustable so unless Canley adjustable top wishbones are used the camber is what it is. The Imp trailing arms are mounted to a cross member made from folded sheet. As soon as the body is off I post a few pictures. I'd be glad of you comments.

The body itself is very nicely moulded and in excellent condition. It is so thin that with the light behind it you can see right through it. No wonder it's so light.

I'm sorry Alex, I have to crack on with it. I need to still be agile enough to get in it when it's finished. The roof is an inch and a half lower than the GT6.  


La Coupe Florio 2015
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Nick Jones
August 12, 2016, 7:11am Report to Moderator

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Sounds like there are plenty of opportunities for significant improvement then John.  I quite like that in a car as it makes me feel useful.....  

I'm sure you are more than equal to the task and I look forward to seeing pics  .  I know a man (slightly) who is a serious wizard with the Imp engine which could be useful if you are planning to stay with the Imp running gear.

Nick


Nick Jones
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Vitesse Mk 1.5 Convertible EFI, Survivor of RBRR 2008, HCR & 10CR 2009, HCR 2010, 10CR2011, HCR 2012, 10CR2013, 10CR2015 & HCR 2016.
GT6 Mk3 Roto - project in waiting
Spitfire MKIV resto nearly complete (consultant only - son's project)
2.5 PI Saloon now EFI (PIe?), Engine rebuilt and running sweet.  Diff howling...... Survivor of HCR 2013 & 2014 Gone to live in Swansea

http://www.tengaston.plus.com
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John Bonnett
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Quoted from Nick Jones
Sounds like there are plenty of opportunities for significant improvement then John.  I quite like that in a car as it makes me feel useful.....  

I'm sure you are more than equal to the task and I look forward to seeing pics  .  I know a man (slightly) who is a serious wizard with the Imp engine which could be useful if you are planning to stay with the Imp running gear.

Nick


Thank you Nick. Yes I am planning on staying with the Imp engine so I would appreciate your friend's help. One or two people are going over to te BMW K series engines which are built more to car standards than bikes, similar size and weight and fit the Imp transaxle. A secondhand K1000 can be picked up for about 500GBP but other costs could take the final figure up to 2k. Still cheaper than building a 998 Imp engine and with all the advantages of a modern design. But for me if I am going to keep the Triumph I need to keep the costs to a minimum on this project so a simple Imp sport engine rebuild should be the cheapest option.


La Coupe Florio 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-rtCbygnIM
GT6 to Spain
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BiTurbo228
August 12, 2016, 9:04am Report to Moderator


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Really looking forward to this rebuild

I suppose they could argue that as it's such a light car it doesn't need as beefy construction, which although technically true doesn't quite justify wobbly suspension mounts...

Looking forward to picking up where these can be improved as one of my mates was looking for one as his first classic car rebuild.



Quoted from Nick Jones
Sounds like there are plenty of opportunities for significant improvement then John.  I quite like that in a car as it makes me feel useful.....  


Huh, it never occurred to me to look at it that way. Maybe that's why I like cars from the British Leyland era so much (as well as the same era of Alfas and Lancias with the odd Maserati Biturbo thrown in). There's so much for me to improve I feel very useful indeed!


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timbancroft61
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Said this before on this forum, but I nearly came to selling my GT6 in 85 to give funds to pick up a G15, fantatsic machines.

Used to be a chap who competed in hillclimbs in a G15, think his name was Andy Harrison, bloomin' fast at Gurston Down. Orange G15 on Revolution wheels. magnificent machine.

Good luck.

Stretching the 'Special's aspect of this segment of the forum, but surely not an issue.


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John Bonnett
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Thank you Tim. Fingers crossed and we'll give it a go.

The body came off today so that I can start work on the chassis. Although it is a new replacement chassis (as has never been used on the road), it is over twenty years old and for much of that time stored outdoors. Not surprising that there's some rust but nothing too serious.  One of the cross members needs replacing and a small bit of one longitudinal rail needs to have a  piece cut out and replaced. So all good news.

Have a look at the way the lower wishbone is mounted. I can see no reason why they had to do it that way. Plan is to cut the bracket off and fit a Triumph one that can be adjusted with shims.



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La Coupe Florio 2015
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GT6 to Spain
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Nick Jones
August 14, 2016, 9:20pm Report to Moderator

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Andy Russell - quick car, good driver.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YT6COQQ2hE

Looks to be a fairly unsophisticated design....... plenty of room for considered improvement    That wishbone arrangement is bizarre!

Nick


Nick Jones
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Vitesse Mk 1.5 Convertible EFI, Survivor of RBRR 2008, HCR & 10CR 2009, HCR 2010, 10CR2011, HCR 2012, 10CR2013, 10CR2015 & HCR 2016.
GT6 Mk3 Roto - project in waiting
Spitfire MKIV resto nearly complete (consultant only - son's project)
2.5 PI Saloon now EFI (PIe?), Engine rebuilt and running sweet.  Diff howling...... Survivor of HCR 2013 & 2014 Gone to live in Swansea

http://www.tengaston.plus.com
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CHRIS211083
August 15, 2016, 7:16am Report to Moderator


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Looks good John, but those turrents and the wish bone mount are mental.

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BiTurbo228
August 15, 2016, 10:08am Report to Moderator


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Looking very nice I shall definitely have to get my mate to buy one of these (there's one on eBay at the moment). Plenty of room for improvement


1974 Triumph Spitfire 6 project
1973 Triumph Spitfire Slant 4 pre-project
1978 Triumph Spitfire (not sure of the plan yet)
1992 Jaguar XJ40 4.0l manual
1989 Jaguar XJ40 3.6 (parts car, squashed by a tree)
1999 Alfa 156 V6
1992 Citroen BX 19 TXD
1996 Lada Niva
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John Bonnett
August 15, 2016, 7:29pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from CHRIS211083
Looks good John, but those turrents and the wish bone mount are mental.

Chris.


Not how you or i would have done it eh Chris?  


La Coupe Florio 2015
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GT6 to Spain
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August 17, 2016, 5:37pm Report to Moderator


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Good to see you have a new project, enjoy seeing your work.

Quoted from John Bonnett
I've been told that because the G15 is fitted with Triumph Spitfire front suspension it qualifies for inclusion in this section.


Does that mean my Beam does as well, it has a Girling servo as used on Triumphs & believe it or not the same headlights, even bullet wiring connectors!  

RR


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John Bonnett
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Quoted from RedRooster
Good to see you have a new project, enjoy seeing your work.



Does that mean my Beam does as well, it has a Girling servo as used on Triumphs & believe it or not the same headlights, even bullet wiring connectors!  

RR




Yes it's all a bit tenuous isn't it Brad. I have to say that right at the outset I didn't feel comfortable about writing it up on this forum and Tim obviously feels the same. I think perhaps it might be the right thing to remove the thread.

cheers

John


La Coupe Florio 2015
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