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kim170503
July 31, 2010, 6:18pm Report to Moderator

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Hi guys, i have at last managed to get my car wiring sorted with thanks from aaron, thing is now, we have tried to fire up the engine and can't seem to work it out, we are getting fuel going to the carbs, if i put fuel into the spark plug areas then the car fires up, sounds really nice but for some reason the fuel is not getting from the carbs to the plugs??? Anyone have any ideas as i am not very mechanical on something like this???
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GT6Craig
July 31, 2010, 8:00pm Report to Moderator

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Have you disconnected the fuel pipe to the carb to see if fuel comes out when you turn the engine over?


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kim170503
July 31, 2010, 8:05pm Report to Moderator

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yes fuel is deffo getting to the carbs!!
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GT6Craig
July 31, 2010, 8:39pm Report to Moderator

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Well it is unlikely that both carbs aren't delivering fuel into the engine.

How have you established that fuel isn't getting into the engine?

Just because it isn't firing doesn't mean to say fuel isn't getting in...Perhaps the mixture is just too weak? What carbs are they? Is there a brass screw underneath each carb?


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Blue
July 31, 2010, 9:37pm Report to Moderator

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Are you using the same fuel from the tank to put into the cylinders or is it fresh fuel. how old is the fuel in the tank. Stale?

Have you looked in the float chambers to see if they are full.
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kim170503
July 31, 2010, 10:50pm Report to Moderator

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fresh fuel, yes do have 2 brass screws undre the carbs, they are stromberg
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tiggrr1
July 31, 2010, 10:59pm Report to Moderator

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If they are Strombergs it will say so on the top of the carbs (at least they do on my CD150SE's)


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Can you tell us a bit about the state of the carbs. Have they been rebuilt or messed with since it was last running? Is the choke working and have you been using this when trying to start? Have you tried something like 'Easy start' spray down the carb inlets when turning it over?

Do we know that the firing order is definitely correct (HT leads in correct order).

I had a hell of a time getting the engine to start when one of my CD150 Stromberg diaphrams was split - worth checking! (no 18 in this image)

Plugs: it is possible to have 2 or 3 'go' when an engine has been left for a while. I had it over 2 winters, after only a 2 or 3 month break the plugs just died.. odd.. and expensive!


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Quoted from tiggrr1
If they are Strombergs it will say so on the top of the carbs (at least they do on my CD150SE's)


unless the previous owner had a  warped sense of humour   (sorry, couldn't resist it but you'll know easily enough if they're SUs or other add-ons rather than original carbs)

Check the plugs - if they're wet then fuel is getting to them, if not - it isn't! The petrol won't go anywhere if the engine isn't firing so the plugs will have petrol on them until it evaporates. Make sure the plugs are clean and not oiled up - a running engine may clean oil etc off plugs, but getting it to run is the initial difficulty.
If the engine runs with petrol in the inlets, but not through the carbs, then the carbs are running too weak or are blocked. Take the tops off both carbs (one at a time for reference, and note how everything goes!) and look at how clean they are. As Hutch says it may be one or both diaphragms have split.


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JSBulmer
August 2, 2010, 1:36am Report to Moderator

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Are the points set properly?

When I tuned mine I had the wrong gap on the points.  Engine cranked really well but would not fire.  Once the gaps were set then the car fired right up.

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royboy66
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A couple of pics may help us to help you too

whereabouts are you in the world?

if it sounds ok when it did fire up, the ignition side doesnt sound far off,so I'd concentrate on what the guys are advising re fueliing  

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I'd start by confirming that the ignition side is spot on. As suggested previously make sure the leads are on in correct order, points adjusted and connecting wire on correct order. If fuel is getting to carbs but not engine then perhaps the floats in the fuel chamber are fitted in a way that they are closing off supply i.e. float needles could be stuck? If free check the setting of the floats by placing the carbs upside down and measuring the clearance, about 11mm but check this and where to measure it.

For a bit of a long shot, has a wire on the ballast resistor (white oblong box about 20mm near the coil) come adrift? If it has it will start on the key (Your: "sounds nice") but when the key is let go there is no spark. Just a thought...don't ask.


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kim170503
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tks guys 4 all of your advice
IT:S ALIVE AND KICKING   sounds like a pig but with no exhaust fitted to it what would u expect.lol
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JSBulmer
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and please share with us the secret to your success as my beast has decided to act up and no longer wishes to start.  turns over wonderfully, but does not wish to start


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kim170503
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to be honest all i did was untightened the screw underneath the strombergs a bit more and she fired!!!, lol, just got the rest of the car to sort out now, wiring is all done, engine running, now needs full interior, got carpet set - need to fit it, need to get headlining and somehow fit it, think i could have problems there though, im 6 ft 2 so not much space to work!!
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