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Anthony
January 30, 2012, 6:08pm Report to Moderator


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I'm thinking of getting a couple of books to add to the shelf

I've got the Guide to Originality, but what else should I get?

The ones that seem to appear the most are......

Haynes Workshop Manual
Haynes Restoration Manual
Original Triumph Workshop Manual

Which ones of these are worth buying, and are there any others I should add to the list?



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January 30, 2012, 6:26pm Report to Moderator


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I have the Haynes manual and also have a guide to purchase & DIY restoration of the Spitfire, GT6, Vitesse & Herald, by Porter and Williams.
If you get stuck, just ask the question on here


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JohnD
January 30, 2012, 6:38pm Report to Moderator


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Some find the Haynes concept of take-it-apart-and-put-it-togther-again-while-taking-photos useful, others irriatating.
Facsimiles of the original Triumph WSMs are available.
See: http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=.....al&x=19&y=16
Almost no photos, but very, very clear line drawings.

John
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AndyW
January 30, 2012, 8:43pm Report to Moderator


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Depends on what your upto, I am in the middle of "Engine Builders Handbook" by Tom Monroe.
Not triumph, generic.  Technical but not confusing.
Almost a walk through of an engine rebuild.  £9 off a rainforest web page.

cheers
Andy    


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piman
January 30, 2012, 10:33pm Report to Moderator


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Hello Anthony,

there is just so much more information in the Triumph original workshop manual, that would be my choice.

Alec


Oswestry, Shropshire.

Mk1 1\2 P.I., Reliant Scimitar GTE 6A, Jaguar Mk 2, very long term restoration.
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junkuser
January 30, 2012, 10:52pm Report to Moderator

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Agree with Piman.
Something to keep in mind though is that the disassembly methods described are on new parts and often inappropriate for 40+ year old ones.

An example in the original Spitfire one is striking the side of the yoke to push the cup(s) out of a universal joint.    Anyone ever had this method work on old stuff?

They also say to use all sorts of special Churchill tools, but don't let this put you off.  You can do most jobs with general workshop tools but a specialised rear hub puller makes life
easier, safer and less likely to destroy things.
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thebrookster
January 30, 2012, 11:32pm Report to Moderator

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junkuser, striking the side of the yoke only works if you use the right type of hammer in my experience. Rubber or plastic normally work, metal (conventional) hammers simply do not cut the mustard


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Richard B
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The Triumph Workshop Manual. Try to get a proper Hardback folder GT6 & Vitesse Workshop manual. So long as it has the GT6 MkIII with Rotoflex you should be alright.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIU.....2f548b#ht_6404wt_762

I wouldn't pay this though!


The paperback reprint is rather hard to see as they were cheapskates and printed 2 original pages to a page.

Triumph Parts catalogue, useful on how it looks and what your supposed to have.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIU.....0e3d5c4#ht_500wt_949


The Graham Robson Spitfire & GT6 Story is worth reading; explains how things came about.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Truimp.....015&sr=8-1-fkmr0

A Graham Bell Four Stroke Performance Tuning (general, but in depth tuning manual)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Four-stroke-Performance-Tuning-Graham-Bell/dp/1859604358

Hillier Fundamentals of Motor Vehicle Technology (a good back ground book on cars)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hilliers-Fundamentals-Motor-Vehicle-Technology/dp/0748780823

Haynes Auto Electrical book is good
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Automo.....2&sr=1-2-catcorr

Should be some good pickings at Stoneleigh...


Dave Vizard's book Tuning Triumphs over 1300 is astronomical in price and a bit of a museum piece, Kas Kastner's new tuning books are good. Gareth Thomas's famous yellow book has nuggets of information but they are obscured and hidden in the text.


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rotoflex
January 31, 2012, 1:15am Report to Moderator

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Triumph workshop manual (isn't the Bentley softcover still around anywhere?)
Original parts catalogue


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Bainzy
January 31, 2012, 2:32am Report to Moderator


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Quoted from Anthony
Haynes Workshop Manual


You mean the Haynes BOOK OF LIES!  

'Refitting is the reversal of removal' my arse it is. Still gets well used though and is easier to skim through than the Repair Operations Manual (though arguably not quite as detailed).

Original parts catalogue is great, its basically what Canley Classics have scanned in on their website. Flicking through that as a book whilst scratching your head in the garage is so handy. Moss have reproduced some of it in their catalogues but their versions of the drawings are tiny, incomplete (they often take out what they can't source) and don't have all the interesting USA variants included or part indexes describing the function of every single part by part number.

Practical Classics' Spitifre Restoration book is brilliant with loads of colour photos showing many jobs in good detail.


my new little triumph spitfire website!

trying to trace 1974 Mk4 Spitfire PKW155M - anyone know anything about this car?
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ferny
January 31, 2012, 5:58am Report to Moderator

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Original style reprint for indoors (when on the bog)
Haynes for when in the garage with dirty hands




Acclaim - fully working and on the road
13/60 Herald - mx5 powered and other such fun things, legal enough...
Mk1 2000 - it's still alive, just sleeping
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cliftyhanger
January 31, 2012, 7:54am Report to Moderator

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original manuals available on PDF here (our very own "vitesse steve"s site)
http://www.vitessesteve.co.uk/

print off what you need when you need it.......


Clive Senior

Location-Brighton, East Sussex
Foxy is here, 1500od tax exempt Toledo. Now has the decent engine back in Slant 4 engine bolted in, sprint box and axle. Just needs fettling and will be on the road....
Spitfire Zetec project is started work progressing slooooowly
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rotoflex
January 31, 2012, 2:26pm Report to Moderator

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If you get a beat-up book like that parts manual with the separated cover, stack it back together, clamp it with some wood paint-stirring paddles over the binding edge, mark it for where 3-ring binder holes should go, find someone with a drill press, & drill it so that you can put it in a binder.

Edit:
The Bentley soft cover version was called "The Complete Official Triumph GT6"
http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?author=&title=complete+official+triumph
http://www.amazon.com//gp/offer-listing/0837601207/sr=/qid=/?condition=used&tag=bf-dt-home-20

The printing is good; it's not a photocopy job.
The first indication of its being an excellent book is of course the fact that the color of the cover is Damson.

If you drill these large softcover books for binder holes, remember that the holes need to be somewhat larger than the ring diameter, & that you need to clamp thin wood over where the holes go & drill through the wood & book, because otherwise even in a drill press the book's pages will squirm & get out of position.



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timbancroft61
January 31, 2012, 5:51pm Report to Moderator

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Simple: Triumph GT6 Heritage Motor Centre CD HMCC7006.

Not GT6 specific:
Triumph History: The complete 75 year history by Robson and Langworth.
The Works Triumphs: Robson
I have a copy of the orig. Gareth Thomas tuning manual, not a bad read.
Kastner book from a couple of years ago are ok.

I'm looking forward to reading the book about to be published about the Saloon range in Rallying.

As said earlier, probably get more relevant info from this Forum!


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1970 GT6 Mk.2: Royal Blue 6 RBRRs (98, 00,02,04,06 & 10), 2 10CRs (03 & 07). 2 HCRs 1 LCC, lots of Autosolos and numerous track days. Bought in 1983, crikey where did the time go! Now running the Roy Lacey cooling system!

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Slate Grey 2 10CRs (05 & 09), 2 RBRRs (08 & 12), 3 HCRs, 2 LCCs. A few alloy panels, does need the pi kit fitting.��Bought April '04. Needs new sills!

1967 Spitfire mk2: Pale Blue. Bought November 2010. Almost seems civilised. Car has done a RBRR (Dave Picton 2010). Might finish off the 1300 engine and o'd gearbox installation soon!
Only 3 Triumph cars now
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Quoted from timbancroft61
Simple: Triumph GT6 Heritage Motor Centre CD HMCC7006.


Didn't they stop selling these, at least for a while?
It seems there was an issue with the expensive anti-piracy construction of the CD which made it non-functional on post-Windows XP systems.



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