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June 13, 2016, 7:36pm Report to Moderator

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its strange to me, folk say, Super unleaded,  or the like

most of the fuel, BP,Esso, ect, its just 97
shell, Tesco  98/99, but full of ethanol, which Ive found actually weakens me mixture, so really need to add moer fuel!!

Butt, 97 wasless than good ole 4 star, 98 same,
so yer only bung,n in, what yer car was designed to run on.


this 95 stuff its aboot what the olde  3 star was.
only cars I recall running onit were all the new Jap imports int early /mid 70,s

1 star was the lowest grade  
2 star was 92 octane,
3 star  95,  
and 5 star 101 octane, good ole stuff, but dear then

M


One does not have to know how a thing works, to know that it is not working right

Ye div,nt efta no ooa thing wuks, t,no its nut wuk,n reet.







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Hi Guys, sorry to put in a question of my own her - what's the best juice to put in my spitfire 1500 (UK 9:1 compression)? Currently running on the cheap stuff, Static timing 8deg BTDC, dynamic figures just within or on top end of BL manual limits (bearing in mind it was written for that toxic leaded pooh). I've recently rebuilt the engine and there's this nasty tinkly noise (like someone shaking a load of pins in a biscuit tin) coming from it - not sure if pinging (pinking?) or small ends. I've checked the backlash on the timing chain and seems ok.
Thanks, Dave.
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Hi Dave, is this noise all the time or only when you put your foot down especially at lower revs in a higher gear going up a hill? If its the latter it'll be pinking so try running it on super unleaded. If it still does it try gradually retarding the timing (less degrees BTDC) until the noise just stops at 2000rpm in top gear under full acceleration on a flat road.
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Leaded petrol wasn't that bad!

Anyway, as above it sounds like pinking. Just keep retarding the ignition until you no longer get pinking.
Higher octane fuel will also help.All as glang has said.


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Foxy is here, 1500od tax exempt Toledo. Now has the decent engine back in Slant 4 engine bolted in, sprint box and axle.Now has fresh MoT. Needs paint though.
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Thanks Glang and Cliftyhanger, Yesterday I put some of the expensive juice in (Shell V-power nitro) - 99 RON, currently a 50% mix in the tank. Went for a good old drive yesterday but still noisy when I got home - seems to be on acceleration, deceleration and light running, so not too optimistic

Have been plotting the dynamic results on a graph, along with the BL advance curve envelope and it's now advancing well above envelope limits. I think the engine's been knocking all along and now might be too late.

I'm going to retard the ignition to 4deg BTDC to see if it helps, also in the distributor the secondary spring, which is supposed to come into play at 1400 rpm is not cutting in until 2000 rpm, I know it's worn / stretched as it measures 0.722" inside the hooks, which I think should be 0.700"
I bought a range of springs from Moss but none seem to give the right curve.
Looks like I'm going to be into some experimentation with dizzy springs - even winding my own as I can't find the exact Leyland one (wire dia 0.051", 4turns, o/d about 7mm).
Interesting read here:

http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/ignition/pdf/tuning_lucas_dist.pdf

Thanks guys, Dave
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Dave, I just remembered that mines a lot worse if I dont keep the oil level topped up in the stromberg dashpots. However that again only really gives you pinking under accelelration so if yours is all the time it might be something else....
The good news is, as I understand it, that its pretty difficult to do really serious damage just with pinking - youre talking race and drag engines rather than our lowly examples
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Thanks Glang, I've got twin SU's on mine but I'll check the dash pots and top them up. Got the distributor stripped down at present, to find where all that stray advance is coming from. There also seems to be some residual backlash in the distributor drive which doesn't help.

Dave
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