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Richard B
January 12, 2017, 10:49pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from JensH
http://www.fairpoint.net/~herald948/database/chassis.htm

Did replace both outer siderails (from Chic Doig - ebay) and one rear outrigger on a friends Vitesse last year. No problem with the body on.


Hi Jens, that link appears to be dead ?  

How did you weld the top of the rear outrigger to the main chassis with the body in situ? What I have done is cut a section out of the bottom of the outrigger, then welded it from inside the outrigger to the top of the chassis rail and refitted the cut out section.

I believe it does need to be welded on all four sides for strength.


Surrey AO and Triumph Hoover, Location: Guildford - Surrey,
Spitfire 2.5PI - 1967 having surgery, PI Saloon - 1969 RBRR x 3, PI Estate - 1969 (to restore), Stag - 1971 RBRR x 2,
PI Saloon MkII - 1971(stalled project), Sold some cars!  

Daughters own: Herald 1500 1961, Herald 1500 Coupe 1962, Dolomite 1300 1976, Herald 13/60 Estate 1970
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Mark Hammond
January 12, 2017, 11:28pm Report to Moderator

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The official fix was to weld a strip of steel to the mainrail then attach to the top of the 'rigger then weld the other sides.  I get the bit about all of it needs welding for strength etc but most replaced outriggers weren't in my experience.  Streatham not far from me (in Cobham, Surrey) if you want I could give a second opinion.  I always love the "it'll need welding for the next MOT" stance garages take.  If it needs it by then, it'll need it now IMHO.

Mark


Herald 1200 Saloon, owned (in the family) from new, Royal Blue/Black trim
[color=purple]MX-5 Z-Sport (Tweaked to 200bhp)2007,
Suzuki Vitara S Auto, Cosmic Black, 2017.
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efp
January 13, 2017, 1:15am Report to Moderator

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Sorry, can't help. I'm in norf Lunnon. Dont have the immunisations or visa to go south of the river.
Sharon
😁


1967 Spitfire MkII, nearing end of restoration
1965 Land Rover S2A, awaiting MOT
2002 BMW 535i,  daily driver, 114k on the clock
2004 Mercedes CLK 200K, alternate daily driver, 143k on clock
1976 International 464 tractor....
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JensH
January 13, 2017, 5:53pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Richard B


Hi Jens, that link appears to be dead ?  


Working on my pc, but try to use this url and scroll down to 'Chassis outriggers need replacing ...'

http://www.fairpoint.net/~herald948/database/

Its one of the US members' work, not mine - so all credit to him (can't remember his name, but told me last time I did put the link up. Hope its okay )
It has been a good help for me though

Cheers,
Jens (Copenhagen)
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January 13, 2017, 6:45pm Report to Moderator

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Link works in Chrome but not Firefox for me.

Try this http://www.fairpoint.net/~herald948/database/chassis.htm

The website is written in a very old style, looking at the code it is  wonder it shows in any modern browser.  Viewing in quirks mode may help.  I think it was written using an old microsoft editor intended for Microsoft Explorer.


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Paula
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Well that was disappointing.
Went and picked the car up and it was running lovely. Went to sainsbury's 2 and a half miles away bought some shopping, feeling very happy. (mainly pizza and beer in the boot)
Then on the way back it was not idling at all. running fine but would die if i took my foot off the accelerator.
Finally it died on a main road and refused to start again.
So i called the RAC and they were pretty quick this time and it turned out the guy used to have one! Still has some parts in his shed.
His diagnosis was that there is some fuel starvation he turned up the idle to get me home and followed me back.
He suggested i get someone to get the carbs set up and check the diaphragm and check for blockages.
It's going back to the garage down the road tomorrow morning and if they can't sort it i'll have to take it to an expert i think....
Real shame as i was really looking forward to getting on the road!
Dammit!


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Paula
January 13, 2017, 9:39pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from efp
Sorry, can't help. I'm in norf Lunnon. Dont have the immunisations or visa to go south of the river.
Sharon
😁


You're not welcome down here Sharon. With your North London ways of electrickery and running water pipes


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Paula
January 13, 2017, 9:58pm Report to Moderator

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This just came up on the telly as i was typing in here.



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RobPearce
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How far had you gone, and how warm had it got? Tessa had big fuel supply problems when hot after her engine swap, due to evaporation in the pump. I had put that down to having "temporarily" fitted a Herald pump (the replacement engine was a post-5000 2L which needs a different pump to the pre-5000 it was replacing) since I'd never experienced it on the old engine. However, it is a known issue with modern fuel.

By the way, if you do conclude that the fuel pump needs work, I still have Tessa's old, good one, which should be correct for a 1600.


Current fleet
1967 Vitesse 2L conv "Tessa"
1970 Spitfire Mk3 (project) "Toby"
1972 GT6 Mk3
Not enough time or space
Recently sold:
1972 2.5 PI estate "Harry" (gone to russell on here)
1973 Toledo 2-door "Spike" (gone to a club official)
Used to have:
1968 Vitesse 2L saloon
1980 Dolomite 1500
1977 Dolomite 1850
1980 Dolomite Sprint
1982 TR7 DHC Sprint
1975 2500S saloon
1971 Herald 13/60 Estate (with 1500 Spit engine)
1975 Stag
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Paula
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Quoted from RobPearce
How far had you gone, and how warm had it got? Tessa had big fuel supply problems when hot after her engine swap, due to evaporation in the pump. I had put that down to having "temporarily" fitted a Herald pump (the replacement engine was a post-5000 2L which needs a different pump to the pre-5000 it was replacing) since I'd never experienced it on the old engine. However, it is a known issue with modern fuel.

By the way, if you do conclude that the fuel pump needs work, I still have Tessa's old, good one, which should be correct for a 1600.


THat's interesting.
It's back in the garage this morning, the guy didn't look happy to see me again.  I'll see what it's like when i get it back!


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Richard B
January 14, 2017, 10:07am Report to Moderator

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Are there any fuel filters fitted, as they might need replacing.

If you have fuel starvation problems then it could be the pump failing or the pipe to the tank getting blocked with rust.

If the car had not been used very much before you bought it, then rust may have formed inside the tank through condensation, (had this on my Spitfire).

With a Herald / Vitesse tank the pump has to lift the fuel up out of the tank so any impediment to flow will restrict delivery of fuel.

An airline down the pipe from the engine bay can often clear this.


Surrey AO and Triumph Hoover, Location: Guildford - Surrey,
Spitfire 2.5PI - 1967 having surgery, PI Saloon - 1969 RBRR x 3, PI Estate - 1969 (to restore), Stag - 1971 RBRR x 2,
PI Saloon MkII - 1971(stalled project), Sold some cars!  

Daughters own: Herald 1500 1961, Herald 1500 Coupe 1962, Dolomite 1300 1976, Herald 13/60 Estate 1970
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Hi Paula,
           a problem that happens on the TR series when the car comes to a standstill is caused by the fuel tank vents getting blocked.
Some tanks (TR4) have a separate pipe, some (TR4A/5/6) have a vented fuel cap.

If it happens again on your car remove the fuel cap - you may hear a suction noise - and try to start.

Roger



TR4A 1967 daily(ish) driver
TR41962  having surgery at present
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Paula
January 14, 2017, 3:16pm Report to Moderator

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ON THE ROAD!


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Paula
January 14, 2017, 3:18pm Report to Moderator

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My local guy found an old tool for doing the carbs and it's all lovely!!
Right!
Where's the sunshine and country roads?!


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Hogie
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Hi Paula,
              don't leave us in suspense - what did the old tool do ???

Roger


TR4A 1967 daily(ish) driver
TR41962  having surgery at present
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