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Paula
January 17, 2017, 9:26pm Report to Moderator

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Maybe if i use my Glasses case potentiometer in series with the wire to the gauge i could 'tune' the sender to work with the non stabilised gauge?



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RobPearce
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Well the one i have fitted gave 30 Ohms at full. Does that tell us anything?

Too late now, as Bill has confirmed for definite, but Tessa's sender (2L, stabilised type) measured 24 ohms at full.


Current fleet
1967 Vitesse 2L conv "Tessa"
1970 Spitfire Mk3 (project) "Toby"
1972 GT6 Mk3
Not enough time or space
Recently sold:
1972 2.5 PI estate "Harry" (gone to russell on here)
1973 Toledo 2-door "Spike" (gone to a club official)
Used to have:
1968 Vitesse 2L saloon
1980 Dolomite 1500
1977 Dolomite 1850
1980 Dolomite Sprint
1982 TR7 DHC Sprint
1975 2500S saloon
1971 Herald 13/60 Estate (with 1500 Spit engine)
1975 Stag
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Afraid I don't have the correct readings to hand, but the fact that the direction of operation is reversed would mean the mechanism needing to be inverted as a starting point. This in addition to changine the windings to get an appropriate resistance range.

It might prove easier to install a stabilised gauge and the voltage stabiliser to go with it. Both are easily available, unlike the sender,

Cheers,
Bill.


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Paula
January 17, 2017, 9:34pm Report to Moderator

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Afraid I don't have the correct readings to hand, but the fact that the direction of operation is reversed would mean the mechanism needing to be inverted as a starting point. This in addition to changine the windings to get an appropriate resistance range.

It might prove easier to install a stabilised gauge and the voltage stabiliser to go with it. Both are easily available, unlike the sender,

Cheers,
Bill.


Can you still get the jaeger gauges?


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January 17, 2017, 9:44pm Report to Moderator

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Afraid I don't have the correct readings to hand, but the fact that the direction of operation is reversed would mean the mechanism needing to be inverted as a starting point. This in addition to changine the windings to get an appropriate resistance range.

It might prove easier to install a stabilised gauge and the voltage stabiliser to go with it. Both are easily available, unlike the sender,

Cheers,
Bill.


Which is the way I went with mine.


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Can you still get the jaeger gauges?


Yes.  

Mark


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heraldcoupe
January 17, 2017, 9:57pm Report to Moderator

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Can you still get the jaeger gauges?


The Smiths gauges are currently made by Caerbont Automotive Instruments. I'm unsure if they do them with a Jaeger face, the original Smiths and Jaeger instruments were re-branded versions of the same part.

Even if new ones aren't available, originals are very easy to come by, they were used on so many cars of the same era,

Cheers,
Bill.


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Paula
January 17, 2017, 10:01pm Report to Moderator

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Maybe not quite so brilliant. These have been out of production for some years, there was strong demand for used examples when I used to trade in Triumph parts, so they are now quite thin on the ground.
Look out for NOS (new, old stock) parts, Mick Dolphin would be a good starting point - part number 205003
http://www.mickdolphin.co.uk/

One warning if you manage to find a new or used original. Though the mounting dimensions are identical, the non-stabilised sender is physicaly larger than the stabilised type. Triumph in their wisdom made the aperture in the tank smaller when they introduced the stabilised system, so an early sender won't fit a late tank. If your car still has it's original tank then this won't be a problem, but be aware that there's a poential difficulty.

Cheers,
Bill.


Ok so it's looking like a stabilised gauge and stabiliser is probably the way to go. I'm finding it tough to find one that says it's for stabilised senders.
It's also a shame i'll lose the nice one i have that matched the rest.




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Paula
January 17, 2017, 10:16pm Report to Moderator

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Shopping time!
Thanks for the help AGAIN.
I never would have got there on my own!


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January 17, 2017, 10:27pm Report to Moderator

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Not that i'm 'There' yet!


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Paula
January 17, 2017, 10:30pm Report to Moderator

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Would this do?
With the stabiliser too.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Smit.....;hash=item92b758b6f2


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January 17, 2017, 10:33pm Report to Moderator

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You just need a gauge from a 2 litre Vitesse (which is visually identical to yours) and a stabiliser.  I might have a stabiliser somewhere, gauge is easy.  Go to Chic Doig and get him to mail you one.  Not sure how it'd wire in tho....  or ask him for the correct sender for the tank.  He is bound to have one.

Mark


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January 17, 2017, 10:49pm Report to Moderator

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so would a new stabilised temperature gauge be required as well?
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No thinking about it I suppose unlike the normal stabilised set up it would just be the fuel sender and gauge that would use the stabilised supply while the temperature would stay on the non stabilised.....
It certainly would be easier if you could find the correct sender
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