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Paula
January 17, 2017, 10:59pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Mark Hammond
You just need a gauge from a 2 litre Vitesse (which is visually identical to yours) and a stabiliser.  I might have a stabiliser somewhere, gauge is easy.  Go to Chic Doig and get him to mail you one.  Not sure how it'd wire in tho....  or ask him for the correct sender for the tank.  He is bound to have one.

Mark


Ok. I'm worried about the hole in the tank now for the sender. I'll have a look at the wiring diagram and see if i can get my head around it (probably not)
Cheers.


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Paula
January 18, 2017, 9:58am Report to Moderator

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Looks pretty straight forward. Power in (40) and then out to the fuel (41) and temp gauge (43)



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January 18, 2017, 10:12am Report to Moderator

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As I said think you would have to split the supply to the fuel and temp gauges as the second will continue to use the unstabilised voltage and only the fuel one will use the new supply.
This company look like they are the Smiths supplier and appear to produce unstabilised senders:
http://www.caigauge.com/documents/pdfs/pil004a-381.pdf  
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Paula
January 18, 2017, 11:21am Report to Moderator

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Quick question.
Where is the Voltage Regulator for the dynamo?


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Paula
January 18, 2017, 11:32am Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Paula
Quick question.
Where is the Voltage Regulator for the dynamo?


FOUND IT!!!!
Thought it would be in the engine bay!


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January 18, 2017, 11:42am Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Paula
FOUND IT!!!!
Thought it would be in the engine bay!

But that would be too obvious


Current fleet
1967 Vitesse 2L conv "Tessa"
1970 Spitfire Mk3 (project) "Toby"
1972 GT6 Mk3
Not enough time or space
Recently sold:
1972 2.5 PI estate "Harry" (gone to russell on here)
1973 Toledo 2-door "Spike" (gone to a club official)
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1980 Dolomite 1500
1977 Dolomite 1850
1980 Dolomite Sprint
1982 TR7 DHC Sprint
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Paula
January 18, 2017, 11:47am Report to Moderator

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Quoted from RobPearce

But that would be too obvious


Ha ha!


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Pete Lewis
January 18, 2017, 4:12pm Report to Moderator

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canley list and sell 121997 non stabilsed temp sender

do you happen to have the old fuel sender or was the wrong type fitted by a previous unkown

Pete


1964 1600 Vitesse 6 Cactus and Black , now  sold
now have T2000   Mk2 saloon in French Blue/grey trim  been  restored without running since 1997
now has power steering ,poly bushed and Alfa 156 seats
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Paula
January 18, 2017, 6:18pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Pete Lewis
canley list and sell 121997 non stabilsed temp sender

do you happen to have the old fuel sender or was the wrong type fitted by a previous unkown

Pete


Wrong type fitted by previous owner.
I'll go check out Canley. I couldn't find it.
Maybe i should just give them a call!
Thanks!


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Paula
January 18, 2017, 7:04pm Report to Moderator

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I'm going to do the alternator upgrade first and then do the fuel gauge. I'm running low on money (bloody taxman)
I've got everything i need. and as far as i can tell once i've fitted the new alternator i just have to bypass the Voltage Regulator.
I've made a super awesome circuit diagram.
It basically says:
At the Voltage Regulator:
Take D (which i believe to be the power from Dynamo)
Connect D straight to A! and A2 to supply the Car with Power bypassing the regulator
Take F and connect it straight to small wire coming out of F (i believe this is already bypassing the Regulator but i'll marry them anyway)
Leave the Earth E as it is.
Sound good?



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January 18, 2017, 7:07pm Report to Moderator

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Sorry i forgot to re size



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January 18, 2017, 7:14pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Paula
I'm running low on money (bloody taxman)



It's that time of the year again.....

Mark


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[color=purple]MX-5 Z-Sport (Tweaked to 200bhp)2007,
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January 18, 2017, 8:31pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Paula
As far as i can tell at the moment the problem is with the gauge as the sender meters out correct (about 30 Ohms at full) and the same reading at the meter. I can run the needle up and down ok with my potentiometer, but the the ohms are all wrong. I wrote down the figures but i think i've made a mistake as they don't make sense.
I'm going to re check and post them here. I also didn't check the voltage at the gauge.
I'm thinking of upgrading the Dynamo to an Alternator too. I'm getting dim headlights and very slow indicators at idle and as i'm using this in London i fear for the battery.
I have a basic understanding of pretty much everything (a real danger!) but this really helped:
http://www.mossmotoring.com/generator-to-alternator-conversion/

I'd love to hear of a easy and cheap way without spending £150 on a kit.

After that i'll probably fit a stereo and a heated rear window element........ Big ideas!!!

The funs only just begun!
I drove to work today and i was the happiest person in London!!!!!!!!!


I got some second hand alternator brackets from Spitfire graveyard or one of the others, a 45/55 amp alternator . Then i followed this blog http://triumphherald1360.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/alternator-conversion.html
The Vitesse should be the same.

What you should also think of is relays for the headlights, and a fuse box.



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January 18, 2017, 8:34pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from heraldcoupe


There are two gauge systems. The early type uses the straight 12V feed from the ignition switch. The later type uses a 10V stabilised feed from the aforementioned voltage stabiliser. The gauge and sender must be matched together as the systems are quie different in the way they work, the reverse reading and odd scaling are typical symptoms of the gauge and sender being from different system types.

This isn't unusual, it's quite common for a replacment fuel tank to be sourced from the 'wrong' kind of Herald or Vitesse, without understanding the sender requirements. As tanks are prone to rust, this is something I've seen time and again. The eraly senders were all fitted to the tank with 6 screws. Later (stabilised) senders can either have the six screws or a locking ring retaining it. Let us know what you've got.

Cheers,
Bill.


oohh that would explain my 'dodgy' reading on my triple gauge (volts temp,fuel) I utilised instead of the twin guage



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January 18, 2017, 8:41pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Matt306


I got some second hand alternator brackets from Spitfire graveyard or one of the others, a 45/55 amp alternator . Then i followed this blog http://triumphherald1360.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/alternator-conversion.html
The Vitesse should be the same.

What you should also think of is relays for the headlights, and a fuse box.



Thanks! I have bought a kit that included the bracket and the alternator. I'm confused about this bit in the blog:

anything greater than 25amp and you'll need to add an extra wire back to the battery.

I have an extra fuse box that i was going to use for the stereo and anything else i might add. Can't think of what though.


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