Gearbox rear oil seal :: Triumph Torque

Moordale Motors

Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
Gearbox rear oil seal
Forum Login
Login Name: Create a new account
Password:     Forgot password

Triumph Torque    Cars    Herald/Vitesse  ›  Gearbox rear oil seal
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 13 Guests

Gearbox rear oil seal Print
1 Pages 1 Recommend Thread
mazfg
March 19, 2017, 1:39pm Report to Moderator


Posts: 1,097
Posts Per Day: 0.50
I've spent the weekend refitting my gearbox...which was a struggle but it's all in and I ran it without the propshaft attached. All is good apart from I've noticed the rear oil seal seem to be leaking a tiny bit . The guy who refurbed forgot to do this and prior to refitting I tried to get the castellated nut off to remove the flange..but no go and with the MOT next Fridqay (and bad whether in the week) it was do or die this weekend.
Now I did think about doing in situ. My only problem is the gearbox tunnel won't allow me to get a socket in..less access as I also have OverDrive. I though I may grind some of it off to allow this.The nut seems to be on pretty tight...is it ok to lock eveythingby putting it in gear and then undoing?  I had no hope before when it was on the bench as It wouldn't lock with my mole grips...
Any advice appreciated.


Current: Triumph Vitesse 6 convertible with O/D 1964

21 Years ago...and my first car! : Triumph Herald 1200 Saloon/ Tristan conversion 1966
Logged
Private Message
iggy
March 19, 2017, 9:32pm Report to Moderator
Club Member
Posts: 380
Posts Per Day: 0.23
from what ive read you need to make flange bar,  a suitable length of tube or angle iron   with 2 bolts welded on the end to fit the flange once this is fitted it will jam on the concrete under your car when the flange is turned,to get better access can you not undo the rear gearbox mounts and lower the rear end of the gearbox on a trolly jack, to udo the nut you will need an impact wrench or a long half inch drive bar for the socket


1972 Mk2 2.5 PI on carbs
2005 Fiat Stilo jtd                                              
Logged Online
Private Message Reply: 1 - 11
glang
March 19, 2017, 10:38pm Report to Moderator

Posts: 318
Posts Per Day: 0.43
What iggy says is the right way to do it but as a quicker bodge it can be done by putting bolts through two of the flange hole, doing them up tight and then wedging a correct size spanner on one nut against the other. Then spanner can then be locked against the floor of the vehicle to allow the nut to be undone be warned though that the recommended torque does say 90 - 100 lb.ft.....
Logged
Private Message Reply: 2 - 11
mazfg
March 19, 2017, 10:46pm Report to Moderator


Posts: 1,097
Posts Per Day: 0.50
I just got some info about using a screwdriver to lock the gears by selecting 2 at the same time.:
Take the selector mechanism off the top of the gearbox and look in you will see where the selectors slot into the gearbox. Move one in one direction and the other one in the opposite direction so two gears are selected. This will prevent the flange from turning. Once you have finished changing the seal and replaced the flange and tightened up the nut move those parts back before you replace the selector mechanism.


Current: Triumph Vitesse 6 convertible with O/D 1964

21 Years ago...and my first car! : Triumph Herald 1200 Saloon/ Tristan conversion 1966
Logged
Private Message Reply: 3 - 11
glang
March 20, 2017, 8:09am Report to Moderator

Posts: 318
Posts Per Day: 0.43
although Im not averse to a bit of bodging I would try to avoid putting the torque of undoing/doing up the nut through the gear train. One thing is that the nut will probably become 'spongy' to torque as you take up the slack so making it difficult to get positive force on it.....
If its already filled dont forget the oil in the gearbox when you take out the seal  
Logged
Private Message Reply: 4 - 11
mazfg
March 20, 2017, 10:04am Report to Moderator


Posts: 1,097
Posts Per Day: 0.50
I think I prefer the steel bar method attached to the flange. Not sure why it needs nuts welding to it. Surely a couple of holes and and then bolted to the flange will work and then jammed on against the floor


Current: Triumph Vitesse 6 convertible with O/D 1964

21 Years ago...and my first car! : Triumph Herald 1200 Saloon/ Tristan conversion 1966
Logged
Private Message Reply: 5 - 11
Jonny-Jimbo
March 20, 2017, 4:00pm Report to Moderator

Club Member
Posts: 4,605
Posts Per Day: 1.21
Could it work in the same way as undoing the crank front bolt and turning over the engine on the starter to knock it loose? So tool on the flange and another one on the nut?


62 Vitesse 1600 - Slammed & modified
66 Herald 1200 - Donor
67 2000 - Fitted with 2.5 o/d - 2012 RBRR, 2015 Essex Rally, 2016 HCR, 2016 RBRR
67 2000 Estate - Awaiting rebuild & modification
70 Herald 13/60 - First car, many bits
77 CZ 125 Sport - 70 miles on the clock
77 Kawasaki KM90 - Shop hack
81 Yamaha DT125 - Running
88 Ginetta G4/4 - Dead
88 BMW E30 320i - For Sale
90 BMW E30 318iS - Building to FIA spec
90 Mazda Eunos 1.6 - 'Popeye'
93 BMW 530i - Donor
95 BMW E34 540i - 4L V8
Logged
Private Message Reply: 6 - 11
Pete Lewis
March 20, 2017, 8:31pm Report to Moderator

Tssc Herts and Beds A.O.
Club Member
Posts: 3,169
Posts Per Day: 0.77
There are interlock pins and balls that prevent  selecting two gears at once situated between the 3 shafts

the tunnel should be cut back a good few inches to allow access to overdrive coouplings   has a
simple  screw down  tin plate  made to cover the prop tunnel gap

a pair of bolts thru the coupling and lock it with a pry bar should be easy to hold the coupljng from rotating   its not gorilla tight

pete


1964 1600 Vitesse 6 Cactus and Black , now  sold
now have T2000   Mk2 saloon in French Blue/grey trim  been stored without running since 1997
now has power steering
location  Luton
Logged
Private Message Reply: 7 - 11
mazfg
March 20, 2017, 8:53pm Report to Moderator


Posts: 1,097
Posts Per Day: 0.50
If I remove the OD mount bottom screwas....could I jack it up enough to pass the prop tunnel..thereby giving me access without cutting more metal out?


Current: Triumph Vitesse 6 convertible with O/D 1964

21 Years ago...and my first car! : Triumph Herald 1200 Saloon/ Tristan conversion 1966
Logged
Private Message Reply: 8 - 11
Pete Lewis
March 21, 2017, 1:21pm Report to Moderator

Tssc Herts and Beds A.O.
Club Member
Posts: 3,169
Posts Per Day: 0.77
if sure that will get it close, watch  out for hose stretch etc.

tip if you remove the mount to the base plate   , tack weld the bolts into the mount as spanner access to hold the hex is  more than a challenge, if tacked you can fit the nuts underside .........,one handed

Pete


1964 1600 Vitesse 6 Cactus and Black , now  sold
now have T2000   Mk2 saloon in French Blue/grey trim  been stored without running since 1997
now has power steering
location  Luton
Logged
Private Message Reply: 9 - 11
mazfg
March 21, 2017, 2:20pm Report to Moderator


Posts: 1,097
Posts Per Day: 0.50
Quoted from Pete Lewis


tip if you remove the mount to the base plate   , tack weld the bolts into the mount as spanner access to hold the hex is  more than a challenge, if tacked you can fit the nuts underside .........,one handed

Pete


I found that out at the weekend..much toing and froing..

Will the output flange come out easily or will I need a hub puller on hand? Or easily tapped out?


Current: Triumph Vitesse 6 convertible with O/D 1964

21 Years ago...and my first car! : Triumph Herald 1200 Saloon/ Tristan conversion 1966
Logged
Private Message Reply: 10 - 11
Pete Lewis
March 22, 2017, 8:39pm Report to Moderator

Tssc Herts and Beds A.O.
Club Member
Posts: 3,169
Posts Per Day: 0.77
Od couplings  normally just pulls off or may be a tap with a mallet
its not a gorilla fit

pete


1964 1600 Vitesse 6 Cactus and Black , now  sold
now have T2000   Mk2 saloon in French Blue/grey trim  been stored without running since 1997
now has power steering
location  Luton
Logged
Private Message Reply: 11 - 11
1 Pages 1 Recommend Thread
Print

Triumph Torque    Cars    Herald/Vitesse  ›  Gearbox rear oil seal

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread
 


Powered by E-Blah Forum Software 10.3.5 © 2001-2008

Latest Blogs-
Rob Pearce

26th March 2017 6:02pm gmt
Strike a... plate? And it all hinges...
Theo Boonen

23rd March 2017 10:14pm gmt
FHC resto nr. 51; Parts coating
more blogs...
Next Group Meetings-
Nottingham Monday 27th March 19:00
Essex Tuesday 28th March 20:00
Cheshire & Staffs Wednesday 29th March 19:30
Coventry & Warwickshire Wednesday 29th March 19:30
Northern Ireland Wednesday 29th March 20:00
South London & West Kent Sunday 2nd April 20:00
Cambridge Monday 3rd April 20:00
Gatwick Monday 3rd April 19:30
Hull & East Riding of Yorkshire Monday 3rd April 20:00
North Hampshire Tuesday 4th April 20:00
West Midlands Tuesday 4th April 20:00
more local groups...
Upcoming Events-
Practical Classics Classic Car & Restoration Show 2017
31st March - 2nd April 2017
CSMA 12 Car Rally
31st March 2017
2017 Historic Counties Run
8th-9th April 2017
Ace Cafe Incarnation, Brighton
22nd April 2017
National CT Drive It Day 2017
23rd April 2017
CMC April Blossom 12 Car Rally
28th April 2017
more events...
For Sale-

1965 Triumph 2000 MK 1 18,000 miles,Manual overdrive, very good original body and interior. Engine(upgraded) and gear box overhauled.Some bodywork to do. Contact for interesting history. £4000 ONO 07734 757595 pat@freeflow69.c om
1972 2.5 PI `Excellent` body and interior MOT`d with new suspension and braking £6500.00 ONO For further details contact Alec Holgate 01254 824530
Wanted-
Searching GT6 MK1 LHD (prefer with sunroof) to transfer to Luxembourg mail: mcmo@pt.lu phone +352621666444
more adverts...
CLUB TRIUMPH the Club for all Triumphs
© Club Triumph Ltd MCMXCVI - MMXV