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Jonny-Jimbo
September 18, 2017, 10:32am Report to Moderator

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I'll be there, but with Joe as nav rather than AJ.


62 Vitesse 1600 - Slammed & modified
67 2000 - Fitted with 2.5 o/d - 2012 RBRR, 2015 Essex Rally, 2016 HCR, 2016 RBRR
67 2000 Estate - Dormant
70 Herald 13/60 - First car, many bits
77 CZ 125 Sport - 70 miles on the clock
77 Kawasaki KM90 - Shop hack
81 Yamaha DT125 - Many bits
88 Ginetta G4/4 - Dead
88 BMW E30 320i - For Sale
89 Citroen AX GT - Rally car!
90 BMW E30 318iS - Building to FIA spec
90 Mazda Eunos 1.6 - 'Popeye'
93 BMW 530i - Donor
95 BMW E34 540i - 4L V8
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thescrapman
September 18, 2017, 10:50am Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Jonny-Jimbo
I'll be there, but with Joe as nav rather than AJ.


Have you and AJ fallen out after that 45 right Saturday night??



Schadenfreude expert and collector of assorted rusty Triumphs on the Essex/Suffolk Border.

2010, 2011, 2013, 2015 and 2016 CT Navigators Championship winner.

10CR 2005, 2007, 2009, 2011 2013 - RBRR 1990, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016 - Nachtrit 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2012 - Chinese rally 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 - HCR 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013 (3rd place), 2014. 2015, 2017

On the road.
1968 Spitfire Mk3 : 1973 TR6 : 1967 Herald 1200 Estate 1970 : 1968 Mk1 2.5PI 1968
Off the road
1967 Moss Monaco (Mk1 GT6 based) : 1970 Spitfire Mk4 : 1970 Mk2 2000 auto  : 1964 Mk1 2000  : Mk2 2.5PI
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Jonny-Jimbo
September 18, 2017, 12:00pm Report to Moderator

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Haha, no, she's got a family engagement thing.


62 Vitesse 1600 - Slammed & modified
67 2000 - Fitted with 2.5 o/d - 2012 RBRR, 2015 Essex Rally, 2016 HCR, 2016 RBRR
67 2000 Estate - Dormant
70 Herald 13/60 - First car, many bits
77 CZ 125 Sport - 70 miles on the clock
77 Kawasaki KM90 - Shop hack
81 Yamaha DT125 - Many bits
88 Ginetta G4/4 - Dead
88 BMW E30 320i - For Sale
89 Citroen AX GT - Rally car!
90 BMW E30 318iS - Building to FIA spec
90 Mazda Eunos 1.6 - 'Popeye'
93 BMW 530i - Donor
95 BMW E34 540i - 4L V8
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Radders
September 19, 2017, 9:44am Report to Moderator

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Quoted from richard w
I'll navigate for you Steve if you want.


I'll take you up on that Richard.    Pm sent



1968 Mk1 2600 Saloon in Slate Grey.
1969 Mk1 2.5 Pi Saloon in White
1967 Mk1 2000 in Wedgewood

HCR 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017
Essex Winter Rally 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016
CT Autosolo 2010, 2011
3 Counties Rally 2010, 2011, 2017
Round Britain Reliablilty Run 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016
International Auto Ecosse 2011, 2012
Ten Countries Run 2011, 2013, 2017
23rd Nachtrit 2011, 24th Nachtrit 2012
South Coast Rally 2011, 2012
Chinese Rally 2012, 2013, 2014, 2017
Summer Rally 2012
Welsh Rally 2013
Suffolk Winter Rally 2014
BCC Santa Special 2014, 2016
Euro Tour 2015 (Fr, Ger, CZ, NL, Belgium)  
Mops on tour 2013, 2015, 2016 x2 2017
CT Warks Rally 2017
Hughes Rally 2017
East Anglian Classic 2017
Mercian Rally 2017




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Radders
September 20, 2017, 8:16am Report to Moderator

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Entry in post today from Radley/Warr  


1968 Mk1 2600 Saloon in Slate Grey.
1969 Mk1 2.5 Pi Saloon in White
1967 Mk1 2000 in Wedgewood

HCR 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017
Essex Winter Rally 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016
CT Autosolo 2010, 2011
3 Counties Rally 2010, 2011, 2017
Round Britain Reliablilty Run 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016
International Auto Ecosse 2011, 2012
Ten Countries Run 2011, 2013, 2017
23rd Nachtrit 2011, 24th Nachtrit 2012
South Coast Rally 2011, 2012
Chinese Rally 2012, 2013, 2014, 2017
Summer Rally 2012
Welsh Rally 2013
Suffolk Winter Rally 2014
BCC Santa Special 2014, 2016
Euro Tour 2015 (Fr, Ger, CZ, NL, Belgium)  
Mops on tour 2013, 2015, 2016 x2 2017
CT Warks Rally 2017
Hughes Rally 2017
East Anglian Classic 2017
Mercian Rally 2017




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sparky_spit
September 20, 2017, 1:26pm Report to Moderator

Mike Banks
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Two entries have now arrived:

Tim Dafforn/Simon Long - TR6 - Beginner
Clive Senior/Lucy Senior - Toledo - Novice

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Also, just a reminder of the general rules and format for the event (which have been in place since 2015), copied from the Rallies/12 Car Navigation Rallies section of the website:
12 Car Navigation Rallies - There will be 3 classes in which you can enter: Beginner, Novice and Expert.  All entrants, regardless of class, will drive the same route.

Beginner Class - The Beginner class is a non-competitive touring class and is for those wishing to participate in the event without having to work through the navigation clues. Anyone can opt to run as a Beginner. Beginners will be given either a marked map or a list of map references to plot on their own map, and the individual organiser will decide with you which of these you will use. The route will be exactly the same as the other classes, and driven in the same direction. To add interest there will be questions given to you to answer as you drive the route, or you will simply note down the code boards along the route the same as the other classes; this will be decided by the organiser. No competitive Championship or Challenge points will be awarded in the Beginner class, but you will be given start and finish points as appropriate.

Crews who normally run as Expert or Novice can opt to run as Beginner if they wish, but will not gain any points for use in Championships and the Challenge, except start and finish points as above.

Novice Class - Novice clues will be different to the Expert clues and they will be simple and straightforward with no tricks. If needed, you may be given general discretionary help with plotting or specific navigation queries.

Expert Class - Expert clues will be a significantly harder and may include a small number of very tricky (but still workable) clues, and reasonable measures to stop Experts from having excess time to drive alternative possible routes.

Clues for Novice and Expert classes will be very clear in their meaning with no scope for different interpretations. For example, terms such as "best not to" and "try to" will not be used and terms such as "must", "mandatory", "must not" or "forbidden" will be used.

Additional route proving information may be used, as well as additional information on code boards. For example, the number of bells at the "?? Bells Pub" could be a question for Novices. The same question given to Experts could also provide the 6th digit of the map reference of the next navigation clue, as could an additional character to be found on a code board. There may also be bonus points awarded for these answers which will help provide a tie break, if required. The use of such navigation questions and additional code board information is up to the individual organiser to use or not, and its use will be clearly stated in the Final Instructions.

Scoring will remain as is currently used for Expert and Novice classes, and as stated in the Final Instructions.  Beginners will be given a score within their own class, based upon their accumulated points, purely for their own interest and enjoyment. Experts and Novices will have any bonus points used for tie breaking purposes, if this method is being used by the organiser.

Championship and Challenge points for Experts and Novices will remain as is currently used. Beginners will not be awarded Championship and Challenge points.

Dummy code boards may be used and it will be made clear to entrants that they may be encountered, and that the fact that they may see a code board does not necessarily mean that they are on the correct route.

Panic Envelopes will be used so that Experts can continue the event if they fail to find or work out the answer to a next-junction dependent question, and in case Novices get really stuck with the navigation or become lost. The envelope will only contain the location of the next control.  The penalty for opening will be such that entrants would not open it purely to gain an advantage; normally 3 fails per envelope. The Final Instructions will state the penalty given.

Promotion.  A navigator will move up from Novice to Expert once he or she has had 3 wins within the current class in CT 12 car events, or in similar events with other clubs. A driver will run at whatever class his or her navigator is currently at.

Final Instructions will include a clear statement of what format the event is going to be and be very clear on how the scoring, bonus points, and tie-breaking will work for the event.

Crew members will be limited to 2, even for the Beginner class, to comply with the MSA 12 Car Navigation Rally permit.

Entries will open with publication on the CT Forum, Comps website and (where possible) within Club Torque.  There will be a 10 day period in which Expert and Novice entries will take precedence over Beginner entries. This is to allow entrants who are trying to gain points in the Championship or Challenge a better chance of a place if there were to be a high number of entries for the beginner non-competitive touring class.


Location - North Essex

1968 MkIII Spitfire - 2009, 2013, 2015 10CR. 2009, 2010 Nachtrit. 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 HCR (..and 11/14ths of the 2011 10CR)
Yamaha RS200 two stroke smoke machine.
Royal Enfield Bullet 500
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Jonny-Jimbo
September 20, 2017, 4:27pm Report to Moderator

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I got my copy of the map through the post today (found a brand new one on eBay for a few quid with free postage!), and the area we'll be covering is going to be somewhat limited being as half the map is water!


62 Vitesse 1600 - Slammed & modified
67 2000 - Fitted with 2.5 o/d - 2012 RBRR, 2015 Essex Rally, 2016 HCR, 2016 RBRR
67 2000 Estate - Dormant
70 Herald 13/60 - First car, many bits
77 CZ 125 Sport - 70 miles on the clock
77 Kawasaki KM90 - Shop hack
81 Yamaha DT125 - Many bits
88 Ginetta G4/4 - Dead
88 BMW E30 320i - For Sale
89 Citroen AX GT - Rally car!
90 BMW E30 318iS - Building to FIA spec
90 Mazda Eunos 1.6 - 'Popeye'
93 BMW 530i - Donor
95 BMW E34 540i - 4L V8
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Radders
September 20, 2017, 4:31pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Jonny-Jimbo
I got my copy of the map through the post today (found a brand new one on eBay for a few quid with free postage!), and the area we'll be covering is going to be somewhat limited being as half the map is water!


That's ok Jon, most of the area that we covered last year was underwater as well.  



1968 Mk1 2600 Saloon in Slate Grey.
1969 Mk1 2.5 Pi Saloon in White
1967 Mk1 2000 in Wedgewood

HCR 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017
Essex Winter Rally 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016
CT Autosolo 2010, 2011
3 Counties Rally 2010, 2011, 2017
Round Britain Reliablilty Run 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016
International Auto Ecosse 2011, 2012
Ten Countries Run 2011, 2013, 2017
23rd Nachtrit 2011, 24th Nachtrit 2012
South Coast Rally 2011, 2012
Chinese Rally 2012, 2013, 2014, 2017
Summer Rally 2012
Welsh Rally 2013
Suffolk Winter Rally 2014
BCC Santa Special 2014, 2016
Euro Tour 2015 (Fr, Ger, CZ, NL, Belgium)  
Mops on tour 2013, 2015, 2016 x2 2017
CT Warks Rally 2017
Hughes Rally 2017
East Anglian Classic 2017
Mercian Rally 2017




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Jonny-Jimbo
September 20, 2017, 5:13pm Report to Moderator

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Feel a bit short changed by OS. Couldn't they have drawn some sea monsters on there etc as well to liven things up a bit?


62 Vitesse 1600 - Slammed & modified
67 2000 - Fitted with 2.5 o/d - 2012 RBRR, 2015 Essex Rally, 2016 HCR, 2016 RBRR
67 2000 Estate - Dormant
70 Herald 13/60 - First car, many bits
77 CZ 125 Sport - 70 miles on the clock
77 Kawasaki KM90 - Shop hack
81 Yamaha DT125 - Many bits
88 Ginetta G4/4 - Dead
88 BMW E30 320i - For Sale
89 Citroen AX GT - Rally car!
90 BMW E30 318iS - Building to FIA spec
90 Mazda Eunos 1.6 - 'Popeye'
93 BMW 530i - Donor
95 BMW E34 540i - 4L V8
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thescrapman
September 20, 2017, 6:42pm Report to Moderator

Colin Wake
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That was All land a few thousand years ago. Like the fens we have plans to drain it at some point.


Schadenfreude expert and collector of assorted rusty Triumphs on the Essex/Suffolk Border.

2010, 2011, 2013, 2015 and 2016 CT Navigators Championship winner.

10CR 2005, 2007, 2009, 2011 2013 - RBRR 1990, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016 - Nachtrit 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2012 - Chinese rally 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 - HCR 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013 (3rd place), 2014. 2015, 2017

On the road.
1968 Spitfire Mk3 : 1973 TR6 : 1967 Herald 1200 Estate 1970 : 1968 Mk1 2.5PI 1968
Off the road
1967 Moss Monaco (Mk1 GT6 based) : 1970 Spitfire Mk4 : 1970 Mk2 2000 auto  : 1964 Mk1 2000  : Mk2 2.5PI
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Jonny-Jimbo
September 21, 2017, 7:59am Report to Moderator

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Entry in the post this afternoon for Team Fallowell and Falafel.


62 Vitesse 1600 - Slammed & modified
67 2000 - Fitted with 2.5 o/d - 2012 RBRR, 2015 Essex Rally, 2016 HCR, 2016 RBRR
67 2000 Estate - Dormant
70 Herald 13/60 - First car, many bits
77 CZ 125 Sport - 70 miles on the clock
77 Kawasaki KM90 - Shop hack
81 Yamaha DT125 - Many bits
88 Ginetta G4/4 - Dead
88 BMW E30 320i - For Sale
89 Citroen AX GT - Rally car!
90 BMW E30 318iS - Building to FIA spec
90 Mazda Eunos 1.6 - 'Popeye'
93 BMW 530i - Donor
95 BMW E34 540i - 4L V8
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sparky_spit
September 23, 2017, 3:19pm Report to Moderator

Mike Banks
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Updated entry list:

Tim Dafforn/Simon Long - TR6 - Beginner
Clive Senior/Lucy Senior - Toledo - Novice
Steve Radley/Richard Warr - Mk1 2.5PI/Novice


Location - North Essex

1968 MkIII Spitfire - 2009, 2013, 2015 10CR. 2009, 2010 Nachtrit. 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 HCR (..and 11/14ths of the 2011 10CR)
Yamaha RS200 two stroke smoke machine.
Royal Enfield Bullet 500
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RobPearce
September 25, 2017, 10:57am Report to Moderator

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We're probably not available for this one - it's the middle of term so Iris is very busy.


Current fleet
1967 Vitesse 2L conv "Tessa"
1970 Spitfire Mk3 (project) "Toby"
1972 GT6 Mk3
Not enough time or space
Recently sold:
1972 2.5 PI estate "Harry" (gone to russell on here)
1973 Toledo 2-door "Spike" (gone to a club official)
Used to have:
1968 Vitesse 2L saloon
1980 Dolomite 1500
1977 Dolomite 1850
1980 Dolomite Sprint
1982 TR7 DHC Sprint
1975 2500S saloon
1971 Herald 13/60 Estate (with 1500 Spit engine)
1975 Stag
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Stuart Wilson
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have wild thoughts about heading down from Northumberland to see how you southern boys do a 12 car.............


1982 TR7 FHC "Sprint"
Moss Roadster - upgrade now in progress
1985 Yamaha FZ750 -- looking to replace with something new
1997 Vauxhall Calibra 2.5 V6 in need of a little TLC -- looking to sell it
2000 Porsche Boxster S -- mid life crisis?  
2004 Skoda Superb 1.9TDI 130 Auto
Vauxhall Nova 1.6 16v stage rally car - NOW SOLD
1988 Vauxhall Nova 1.2 merit (now stored inside, future classic?)
You can never have too many toys!!

2012 RBRR  TR7 "Sprint" car 16 (completed)
2014 RBRR Moss Roadster car 72 (retired)
2016 RBRR Moss Roadster TR7 "Sprint" car 123 (completed)
2018 RBRR Moss or TR7 --- choices
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sparky_spit
September 26, 2017, 1:12pm Report to Moderator

Mike Banks
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Quoted from Stuart Wilson
have wild thoughts about heading down from Northumberland to see how you southern boys do a 12 car.............


You would be made most welcome Stuart.  Have you got a visa to get into Essex?  


Location - North Essex

1968 MkIII Spitfire - 2009, 2013, 2015 10CR. 2009, 2010 Nachtrit. 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 HCR (..and 11/14ths of the 2011 10CR)
Yamaha RS200 two stroke smoke machine.
Royal Enfield Bullet 500
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