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Rosbif
December 12, 2017, 3:41pm Report to Moderator

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That is what the car did today, refused to start. It ran fine 7/10 days ago. Today I replaced the plugs and it refused to start after. OK you can get a bad one but 4? bought from a proper supplier. Refitted the old ones no go.
The battery spins the motor like a mad thing so not that.
Fuel? In this weather unlikely to be evaporation, but primed the pump anyway, no joy. Started to loosen the pump top and petrol seeped out so I guess fuel is getting that far.

So, electrical? refitted the coil I took out a few weeks ago, it was working at that time. No change.
Ran out of time so I will have to grumble to myself for the next 3 or 4 days .

I didn't really look to see it the plugs were wet when I took them out, I was so shocked that the old girl wasn't playing the game.

Question: Fuel pump, if petrol comes out as the top is loosened does this mean petrol is leaving the pump or just getting to it, or neither/both

I will check the pump exit for signs of petrol, a match and some old newspaper should be all I need
Then a step by step check of all electrical connections and "stuff". The car has Acuspark fitted just under 3 years ago, could this have failed due to cold weather, not been that cold, could be damp, could be "X". Find "X".

At least I don't need the car in a hurry, as Mrs Me pointed out.

Right diagnostic equipment: Large glass plus  Havana Club aged rum? 10 year old single malt? or Irish? Decisions, decisions.  


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Hogie
December 12, 2017, 3:54pm Report to Moderator
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Look at all the electrics in the area that you worked in.  Something silly pulled out.
Did you have the dizzy cap off - rotor arm !!

Go for the Irish - you can then justifiably work yourself into a paddy and feel happy.

Roger


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paulfosh
December 12, 2017, 4:37pm Report to Moderator

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check the king lead is in place
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RobPearce
December 12, 2017, 5:25pm Report to Moderator

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Fuel pump being full only means fuel's getting that far. It's possible the float needle valve is stuck.
The Accuspark may have failed but I'd not be as aggressive in that sugestion as some on here.


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Rosbif
December 12, 2017, 5:31pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Hogie
Hi
Look at all the electrics in the area that you worked in.  Something silly pulled out.
Did you have the dizzy cap off - rotor arm !!

Go for the Irish - you can then justifiably work yourself into a paddy and feel happy.

Roger


Didn't have the dizzy cap off so I agree something silly pulled out - I'll start with pulling out the cork on the Irish and see if that helps, well it will help me at least.



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Rosbif
December 12, 2017, 5:33pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from RobPearce
Fuel pump being full only means fuel's getting that far. It's possible the float needle valve is stuck.
The Accuspark may have failed but I'd not be as aggressive in that sugestion as some on here.


I'll hit the carb with the right size 'persuader', or did you mean pump? I'll hit them both to be sure   Then hit the bottle  


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Quoted from Rosbif
I will check the pump exit for signs of petrol, a match and some old newspaper should be all I need


Reminds me of a friend, sadly now deceased, who was a fitter/service engineer with British Gas who swore blind that he always used safety matches when checking for leaks!!  


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poppyman
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Have you checked if it's "on strike" being in France
Just a thought
Cheers,
Tony.
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December 12, 2017, 6:20pm Report to Moderator


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I had exactly the same thing. It had been running fine and then refused to start. Traced to no sparks despite 12Volt at the coil . Called the AA. Chap did a couple of electrical tests, asked me to crank the engine which I did and it started straight away. And it has run perfectly ever since. Problem has to be either the coil or ignition module and I now have a spare one of each.


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Rosbif
December 12, 2017, 7:33pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from poppyman
Have you checked if it's "on strike" being in France
Just a thought
Cheers,
Tony.


Good point. I was actually working on it between 12.00h and 14.00h so that is most likely the reason. 😥


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Paula
December 12, 2017, 9:56pm Report to Moderator

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I'm a professional idiot, so i have an idiot suggestion.

Firing order?




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Beans
December 12, 2017, 10:37pm Report to Moderator

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Check all suspect wiring with your trusty muliti meter and check that all spark plugs do spark ...
Wild guess, damaged spark plug wires  




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Rosbif
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Quoted from Paula
I'm a professional idiot, so i have an idiot suggestion.

Firing order?




Not tnat as there wasn't even a cough or sneeze and he leads are marked so as not to get them mixed.


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Rosbif
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Check all suspect wiring with your trusty muliti meter and check that all spark plugs do spark ...
Wild guess, damaged spark plug wires  


When I next get the time,maybe Friday, I am going to go step by step over all the ignition wiring and leads to check connections and confirm there is a spark from he coil ht lead. I suspect the fault is upstream from individual plugs and their leads as there was not a single cylinder giving any sign of trying to fire.
I probably dislodged something with my big mitts.  
I have (sort of) checked the ht lead connections,I could have caught a wire from the dizzy to coil 😚
Until then more rum and whisk(e)y  


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Quoted from Paula
I'm a professional idiot....


Does that require special testing or certification in the UK? I'm asking, because here in the US it seems almost a birthright.

p.s. Paula, I don't believe you really are a professional idiot; certainly not given your choice of motorcar!  



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