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daver clasper
December 13, 2017, 7:07pm Report to Moderator
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Hi
My Vitesse has standard cooling system and 6 blade metal fan.

The hottest it get's (on the gauge) on very hot days with long idling is 3/4 (never overheated with water boiling over).

Running on open road about a 1/4 on gauge.

I understand gauges can not be too accurate.

So, with cooling on 6 cylinder small chassis cars being a bit marginal anyway, I think it's ok.

I don't wan't to go electric fan, but wondering if the 8 blade plastic could be useful and if so, are they a straight swap?.

Any help great, thanks.

Dave
  
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nang
December 14, 2017, 4:23am Report to Moderator

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I wouldn't be too worried . My 2500 ,on a really hot (30 degrees(C) day gets about half way between 1/2 and 3/4 but never uses any water.As you say ,gauges aren't that accurate. I'm waiting for a new viscous coupling though as mine is loose and noisy. I don't  this is a problem but don't really want it to fall apart and go through the radiator. Or maybe the radiator could use a flush.
Tony.


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glang
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These fans are listed as a direct upgrade for the Vitesse but look at the price for a bit of plastic! Your car seems to be one of the lucky ones on cooling so I would spend that money on something thats better value....

http://www.jamespaddock.co.uk/fan-blades-2
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cliftyhanger
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I think the plastic blades are a bit more efficient, and can be better balanced.
They used to be common secondhand for a tenner, not sure if that is still the case.Doubtful, but shouldn't be a fortune. But if cheap enough, buy one and try it! And yes, straight swap.


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JohnD
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Dave,
Not broke, Why fix?

Jhn


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Old Blue.  1995-2001
Silverback. 2001-2007
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Pete Lewis
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I  fitted a 7 blade plastic , the main improvement is noise reduction
the multi blades are much quieter than the  metal  fan.


1964 1600 Vitesse 6 Cactus and Black , now  sold
now have T2000   Mk2 saloon in French Blue/grey trim  been  restored without running since 1997
now has power steering ,poly bushed and Alfa 156 seats
location  Luton
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daver clasper
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Thanks a lot for your advice folks.

Might look out for a cheap, second hand plastic one (cos I like a bit of cheap/harmless fun, messing about aside from the chores).

From the above replies, not sure if they are 7 or 8 blade?.

Cheers, Dave
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mazfg
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I bought one of these secondhand ones from Chris witor a few years back and swapped for my heavy metal 6 blade on my Vitesse 6.  Definitely helped

http://www.chriswitor.com/proddetail.php?prod=308353SH


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glang
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Quoted from daver clasper
Thanks a lot for your advice folks.

Might look out for a cheap, second hand plastic one (cos I like a bit of cheap/harmless fun, messing about aside from the chores).

From the above replies, not sure if they are 7 or 8 blade?.

Cheers, Dave


I think the 7 blade items come from spitfires and heralds where they were fitted to the water pumps while the 8 blades were used on TR6 installed on their crankshafts and they appear to be interchangeable. A additional benefit might be had from the sale of your quite valuable original fan......

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mazfg
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Quoted from glang


. A additional benefit might be had from the sale of your quite valuable original fan......



I tried selling mine on ebay after I changed for the plastic 8 blade yellow.....alas I had no interest...


Current: Triumph Vitesse 6 convertible with O/D 1964

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RobPearce
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I tried selling one to somebody on here who explicitly wanted one. Apparently it wasn't pretty enough.


Current fleet
1967 Vitesse 2L conv "Tessa"
1970 Spitfire Mk3 (project) "Toby"
1972 GT6 Mk3
Not enough time or space
Recently sold:
1972 2.5 PI estate "Harry" (gone to russell on here)
1973 Toledo 2-door "Spike" (gone to a club official)
Used to have:
1968 Vitesse 2L saloon
1980 Dolomite 1500
1977 Dolomite 1850
1980 Dolomite Sprint
1982 TR7 DHC Sprint
1975 2500S saloon
1971 Herald 13/60 Estate (with 1500 Spit engine)
1975 Stag
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Rosbif
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I've got a plastic 7 blade fan to fit to my Herald in place of the metal 4 blade item.

It seems the 7 blade version for Spits & Heralds was an "export upgrade" fitment, presumably as "export" meant warmer climate.

I'm in Normandy and as you all know the climate here is always hot, dry and sunny.   So the export upgrade should help no end.  


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glang
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Quoted from RobPearce
I tried selling one to somebody on here who explicitly wanted one. Apparently it wasn't pretty enough.


This one looks like it went for 81quid plus postage and its certainly not pretty!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRI....._cvip=true&rt=nc

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69vitesse
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Quoted from daver clasper
Hi
My Vitesse has standard cooling system and 6 blade metal fan.

The hottest it get's (on the gauge) on very hot days with long idling is 3/4 (never overheated with water boiling over).

Running on open road about a 1/4 on gauge.

I understand gauges can not be too accurate.

So, with cooling on 6 cylinder small chassis cars being a bit marginal anyway, I think it's ok.

I don't wan't to go electric fan, but wondering if the 8 blade plastic could be useful and if so, are they a straight swap?.

Any help great, thanks.

Dave
  


As you’ve demonstrated, the cooling system isn’t particularly marginal, it’s adequate for the job.
Most ‘overheating’: issues can be tracked back to a combination of 50 years of crud in the system, 95 octane unleaded petrol that requires the ignition retarding, (use super unleaded), ‘free flow’ tubular manifolds that massively raise under bonnet temperatures, and that other great offender, the electric cooling fan that’s far less effective than the original factory fan.

Worth fitting the plastic fan as others have said for a dramatic reduction in noise though.
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glang
December 16, 2017, 10:14am Report to Moderator

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Quoted from 69vitesse


As you’ve demonstrated, the cooling system isn’t particularly marginal, it’s adequate for the job.
Most ‘overheating’: issues can be tracked back to a combination of 50 years of crud in the system, 95 octane unleaded petrol that requires the ignition retarding, (use super unleaded), ‘free flow’ tubular manifolds that massively raise under bonnet temperatures, and that other great offender, the electric cooling fan that’s far less effective than the original factory fan.

Worth fitting the plastic fan as others have said for a dramatic reduction in noise though.

Agree with what you say except the electric fan bit - depends which one you use as theres a lot of difference between a chinese 80watt jobbie and a Kenlowe 265w turbine....

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