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Batman
January 6, 2018, 5:02pm Report to Moderator


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So guys, got to the stage of re-fitting the rear back plates, and fitting new shoes, cylinders, adjusters etc.

Think I've fitted it all ok, but cannot get the new drum easily over the shoes despite the adjuster being wound all the way out??

Me being a dafty, or do I need to "titivate" the shoes a bit

(I know I haven't fitted the split pin yet for the handbrake lever )



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GT6DavidMK1
January 6, 2018, 5:13pm Report to Moderator

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You have the right hand brake shoe the wrong way round the oblongs should be at the bottom


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Quoted from GT6DavidMK1
You have the right hand brake shoe the wrong way round the oblongs should be at the bottom



Ok, will swap it over tomorrow. Hopefully it's as daft as that !

Thanks
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January 6, 2018, 6:53pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Batman



Ok, will swap it over tomorrow. Hopefully it's as daft as that  


And the top spring should behind the shoes by the way  


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Batman
January 6, 2018, 7:30pm Report to Moderator


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Quoted from GT6DavidMK1


And the top spring should behind the shoes by the way  


So other than that, perfect lol  
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Batman
January 6, 2018, 7:47pm Report to Moderator


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Should have googled this 1st, as per replies, I SHOULD have done it like this



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Batman
January 7, 2018, 1:10pm Report to Moderator


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So put the shoes on the right way this time, but still can't get the new drum over the new shoes !

Think I need to relieve a few mm from the end of each shoe to allow them to close up more !

Beginning to get ticked off with "copy-parts" now not fitting, either shoes, adjuster or cylinder a couple of mm too big. How difficult is it to make stuff the same   rant over 😡

Have left it for now and run in my brake lines instead.

Need to re-mount the plates for the front brake lines, new upper wishbone bolts not long enough 😡 so will mount them separately.




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yorkshire_spam
January 7, 2018, 1:19pm Report to Moderator

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Might be worth giving things a "jiggle" and see if the drum will go on before you do anything drastic. Make sure the cylinder can slide freely, shuffle the shoes up and down a bit just see if it'll drop into place.
For reference.... brake shoes:
FERODO FSB346
Delphi LS1032
Generic GBS749
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Batman
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Quoted from yorkshire_spam
Might be worth giving things a "jiggle" and see if the drum will go on before you do anything drastic. Make sure the cylinder can slide freely, shuffle the shoes up and down a bit just see if it'll drop into place.
For reference.... brake shoes:
FERODO FSB346
Delphi LS1032
Generic GBS749


Juggled and wiggled like a ten quid lap dancer, still won't go!

Will dig out the old shoes (liners knackered but will be able to check the metal part is right)

It will wait until next weekend now !
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yorkshire_spam
January 7, 2018, 1:57pm Report to Moderator

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A sudden thought - do you have the old wheel cylinders? Are the new ones the same size when "compressed"?
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If there isn’t one there already, filing a chamfer on the leading edges may help. Beware the dust of course.


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JimGT6
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From your picture, it looks like the left and right rear adjuster wedges are not touching. They should be able to touch. There might be gunk(technical term) behind the adjusting cone that won't allow it to fully retract.
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poppyman
January 7, 2018, 6:19pm Report to Moderator
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Just a thought, from the pics i cant see a slot on the rear of the cylinder? It isnt the cyl for the self adjusting type?
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JimGT6
January 7, 2018, 6:28pm Report to Moderator


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Quoted from poppyman
Just a thought, from the pics i cant see a slot on the rear of the cylinder? It isnt the cyl for the self adjusting type?



Correct cylinder, self adjusting type have a star wheel on cylinder.

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Rubce
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Quoted from poppyman
Just a thought, from the pics i cant see a slot on the rear of the cylinder? It isnt the cyl for the self adjusting type?


That car  doesn't have self adjusting brakes. It got the manual adjuster fitted at the bottom.

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