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efp
January 4, 2018, 8:36pm Report to Moderator

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If anyones got too much money left after xmas and fancies a factory reconditioned engine with 0 miles on it, may I draw your attention to this:

AgAAOSwBkRZ-ewu">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRI.....8:gAgAAOSwBkRZ-ewu

FH series I think unfortunately, but as I understand it Gold Seal motors were recons hand built to higher standards than production line originals. Seller is Tony Fitchet who says it has been in his stores for 30 years.

(Declaration of interest: in a fit of madness I just bought the other one he had available.. Mine won't take another rebore and given the seeming scarcity of good engines, their price, plus the cost of a full recon on what might be a junker, its didn't seem too bad a deal)


1967 Spitfire MkII, nearing end of restoration
1965 Land Rover S2A, awaiting MOT
2002 BMW 535i,  daily driver, 114k on the clock
2004 Mercedes CLK 200K, alternate daily driver, 143k on clock
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efp
January 7, 2018, 1:24am Report to Moderator

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Curious as to the total lack of reaction to this.

Is it because you all think me a complete dick for blowing a grand on an unflavoured engine variant ? Fair enough.

But I’d have thought a zero mile motor, effectively NOS, from a reputable vendor, would have been of interest to others too.

Looks like I’m wrong then.


1967 Spitfire MkII, nearing end of restoration
1965 Land Rover S2A, awaiting MOT
2002 BMW 535i,  daily driver, 114k on the clock
2004 Mercedes CLK 200K, alternate daily driver, 143k on clock
1976 International 464 tractor....
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yorkshire_spam
January 7, 2018, 1:21pm Report to Moderator

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I think the lack of reaction is down to the forum being pretty dead at the moment... the posting rate is well down and many of the "old regulars" don't seem to be around these days.
If it's "pukka" £1000 sounds reasonable to me!
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DanM
January 7, 2018, 4:31pm Report to Moderator

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Not a bad price at all, it cost me way more to recon my 1147 and really nothing wrong with the mk4 1300 particularly if it is an early one with the mk3 profile cam, though not sure how you would know with a recon unit. I would make sure everything gets a good squirt of oil and a turn over by hand though as it has been sitting a long time
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Mark Hammond
January 7, 2018, 5:11pm Report to Moderator

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£1000 seems as cheap as a budgie to me!  I think you've done alright there.  You couldn't get the old one reconditioned for that with provenance.

Mark


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Nick Jones
January 7, 2018, 5:55pm Report to Moderator

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It's true that it would probably cost more than that to fully recon an existing engine properly, so in that sense it's a good deal, especially if you would have had to source another block.

However, Gold Seal or even "factory recon" engines are not necessarily better than any other recon engine as they were done in a number of different places.  I've had a couple of "factory recon" engines apart in the past that had some "interesting" features, although to be fair they could have had further attention since the factory recon.

Nick


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efp
January 7, 2018, 7:07pm Report to Moderator

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Well, it’s in a fitted shipping crate stencilled  Gold seal genuine factory replacement unit, and  Worn Unit to be Returned in this case,  all apertures are masked over and  covered with the same gold paint as the rest of the engine, and there are a bunch of Unipart labels, regarding such things as a reminder to retorque the head, , and advice the This engine contains a sealant and inhibitor, Do Not Flush.
I’m pretty confident it’s the real deal. Doubt TD Fitchett would play games.


1967 Spitfire MkII, nearing end of restoration
1965 Land Rover S2A, awaiting MOT
2002 BMW 535i,  daily driver, 114k on the clock
2004 Mercedes CLK 200K, alternate daily driver, 143k on clock
1976 International 464 tractor....
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Nick Jones
January 8, 2018, 10:30pm Report to Moderator

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Not doubting it's the real deal.  Just saying "better than new" is just old marketing hype!

Look forward to hearing how it goes and hope it's an excellent one!

Nick


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Vitesse Mk 1.5 Convertible EFI, Survivor of RBRR 2008, HCR & 10CR 2009, HCR 2010, 10CR2011, HCR 2012, 10CR2013, 10CR2015, HCR 2016 & HCR 2017.
GT6 Mk3 Roto - project in progress
Spitfire MKIV son's project now on the road as a daily driver
2.5 PI Saloon now EFI (PIe?), Engine rebuilt and running sweet.  Diff howling...... Survivor of HCR 2013 & 2014 Gone to live in Swansea

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efp
January 8, 2018, 11:27pm Report to Moderator

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Thanks Nick, I hear what you are saying.

Hope to pick it up next week, will report back.


1967 Spitfire MkII, nearing end of restoration
1965 Land Rover S2A, awaiting MOT
2002 BMW 535i,  daily driver, 114k on the clock
2004 Mercedes CLK 200K, alternate daily driver, 143k on clock
1976 International 464 tractor....
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efp
January 9, 2018, 12:12am Report to Moderator

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Incidentally, re my second post, obviously I meant unfavoured rather than autocorrect’s “unflavoured”.

Though not sure I find that gold paint job very tasteful. It is at least mint..

(groan, sorry..)

Believe the FH number indicates its the later large crank variant which I understand aren’t as desired by the competitive, but for a granny driver like me it will do fine.  In fact, other than checking it over I think it will probably stay cased and filled with its anti corrosion fluids until I actually need it.

Suggestions as to what checks  I could make on such a 30+ year old unused engine without actually starting it or dismantling  too much would be welcomed


1967 Spitfire MkII, nearing end of restoration
1965 Land Rover S2A, awaiting MOT
2002 BMW 535i,  daily driver, 114k on the clock
2004 Mercedes CLK 200K, alternate daily driver, 143k on clock
1976 International 464 tractor....
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glang
January 9, 2018, 7:34am Report to Moderator

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I would certainly like to look inside sooner rather than later at cam or crank or both to check for any corrosion....
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timbancroft61
January 9, 2018, 9:59am Report to Moderator

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Think it would be prudent to get some cam lube onto the camshaft and cam followers before first start up.

£1K is a good price, good luck with the installation, start up, running in and the future with the engine.


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1970 GT6 Mk.2: Royal Blue 6 RBRRs (98, 00,02,04,06 & 10), 2 10CRs (03 & 07). 2 HCRs 1 LCC, lots of Autosolos and numerous track days. Bought in 1983, crikey where did the time go! Now running the Roy Lacey cooling system!

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garyf
January 9, 2018, 1:17pm Report to Moderator

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Interesting to see some of the other parts listed by TD Fitchetts too, how about a N.O.S. TR7 Convertible Body Shell!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRI.....c:g:S~YAAOSwzVxZbyql
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Guppy916
January 13, 2018, 7:41pm Report to Moderator


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snap it up, I spent more than that having mine lightened and balanced, (GT6 MK3)


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thescrapman
January 13, 2018, 10:13pm Report to Moderator

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Fitchetts had crated 2000 engines as well a few years ago.

Would have been saloon engines I guess.


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