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Moto Baldet of Northampton - Triumph Car Dealers 58A
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Moto Baldet Ltd are the feature business in this short post about a Standard Triumph car dealer in Northampton.  This is a follow up to my earlier post: Douglas Garage of Northampton - Triumph Car Dealers 58

Probably better known as a microcar and scooter dealer.  Run by Andre Baldet from a garage at Westonia Garage, Weston Flavell, Northmpton.  Moto Baldet also sold cars and for a time were a Standard Triumph dealer.  Whilst they held the Lotus franchise they produced a special edition Elan, the Silver Streak.

Easter bonnet

It was reported in the Standard Triumph Review of May 1963: Over 60 bonnet wearers entered for the Annual Easter Bonnet Parade held on Easter Monday at The Racecourse, Northampton.

The parade is sponsored by the Moto Baldet Group of Garages (Standard Triumph dealers) who provide the trophies and organization staff; additional prizes were presented by the Westone Hotel, John London Salon and Eric Ager Studio.

Winner of the cup for The Best Easter Bonnet was Miss Gillian Briggs who had celebrated her 16th birthday the day before the parade.

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If you have any more information or recollections about Moto Baldet or any other Northampton area Standard Triumph dealer such as photos of window stickers, dealer badges or sill plates etc please let me know. I can be contacted via the comments to this post or on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/stephen.weblin

Further information and sources

Link to the other articles in this series.

Link to facebook page: Triumph Car Dealers.

Link to my Triumph Car Dealers Flickr group which includes many photos of Standard Triumph garages etc from my collection and many other contributors .

I have a collection of Standard Triumph car dealer directories: http://vitessesteve.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/triumph-car-dealer-directories.html

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FHC resto nr. 76; More exterior trim
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Some more small jobs finished on the car! To start with the repairs to the head light surrounds. True to their reputation all the bonded in steel mounting washers had fallen off. Time for a well proven though slightly messy repair. When I adapted the head lights for ‘t Kreng, I fabricated a batch of alloy washers to replace the original ones. At the time I thought it a good idea to fabricate a few spare sets. And it proved a good idea indeed, as I used one of these spare sets to repair the FHC’s head light surrounds. Though this time the sealant I used was slightly more difficult to work with. As a result of which the finished product looks a little messy, but that will be completely hidden from sight And at least the washers are properly bonded to the rubber surrounds!



After I finished the head light surrounds it was time for the next job, preparing and fitting the sill mouldings. These had been powder coated almost two years ago, after which they had been safely stored away. But due to the fact that I had to move a lot of my TR7 stuff to another location last year, I had these mouldings in my hands far too often while searching through the parts. And I finally got fed up with them lying around, so I decided to fit them to the car! Last summer I already had made a start by searching through my spares for all the parts I’d to fit the mouldings to the sills:


And to make sure the end caps will stay firmly in place, I used a generous amount of PUR based sealant to fixate them in their designed position:


Remained the final task of fitting everything to the car. To start with the plastic mounting clips (GHF1167 and ZKC2272) were put in place. There were a few small problems here, mainly caused by the clips themselves. Let’s say I was glad I had enough spare clips with me! Sadly while fitting the LH front clip (ZKC2272) the pop rivet pliers managed to slightly damage the paint work. Grrrrr! Luckily it is only a very small and hardly visible chip. Will see what I’ll do with it …
Finally all the clips were aligned with a straight rule and some more PUR sealant was applied to the ends of the mouldings to bond them to the car’s body. After which the mouldings could be fitted to the car. Which turned out to be the easiest part of the job. Carefully align the moulding in its correct position, whack it in place with a few well aimed blows with the palm of your hand. Making sure it seats properly over all the mounting clips. Job done!



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Horners of Manchester - Triumph Car Dealers 74E
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This short post is about F Horner & Son Ltd a Standard Triumph car dealer in Manchester.
F Horner & Son Ltd, Manchester advert from What Car magazine July 1977
F Horner & Son Ltd, Manchester advert from What Car magazine July 1977

The original Horners business was established in 1922 as an Austin dealership.  Over the years, F Horner & Son became a landmark on Bury New Road. The Horners family sold out in 1986.  They also had a Vespa and Lambretta dealership on Ayres Road, Old Traffold.

Horners

Horners, which was hard hit by the collapse of Rover in 2005 went on to operate Mitsubishi and Skoda franchises on Bury New Road, Manchester, and on Queensway Rochdale.  Horners Motor Group went bust in April 2010. 

After the business failed two of the senior technicians Philip Rowland and David Gamble together with Deborah Rowland (finance and accounts) formed Horners Auto Repair Centre Ltd.in Swinton.

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If you have any more information or recollections about Horners of Manchester or any other Standard or Triumph dealer in Manchester such as photos of window stickers, dealer badges or sill plates etc please let me know. I can be contacted via the comments to this post or on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/stephen.weblin

Further information and sources

Link to a list of Manchester area Standard Triumph dealers

Link to the other articles in this series.

Link to facebook page: Triumph Car Dealers.

Link to my Triumph Car Dealers Flickr group which includes many photos of Standard Triumph garages etc from my collection and many other contributors .

I have a collection of Standard Triumph car dealer directories: http://vitessesteve.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/triumph-car-dealer-directories.html

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Another bit of time under the car…
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Last weekend, I was back under the Triumph again – this time, to replace the propshaft with an uprated and more importantly, balanced one from Dave Harvey.

All went together fine – new nuts and bolts supplied and due to weather conditions shortly after, a test drive is still to be completed. There was quite a difference in both weight of the new one and, the size of the joints. Hopefully, that’s that sorted for the life of the car now…! A few squirts of grease to fill the UJs and ready for the road.

During a general under-car checkover, I did find that the inner drive shaft flange nuts were all about a flat loosened off after the trip to the UK – I hoped this problem might have been sorted with the addition of the CV shafts running more smoothly but there we go…

Blue Loctite thread locker has been applied this time so hopefully, that will be that.

I also started to replace the Furflex trim strip around the doors – I found some in a good shade of brown and managed to get the driver’s door access completed, with the aid of some pliers and a rubber mallet…. The door seems to close more firmly now and hopefully, the front passenger door will seal up more following the work as it’s pretty noisy at the moment when on the motorway with air passing through.

If there’s not much improvement, the next step will me rubber seals I suppose – that needs a bit of investigation as it seems there are a few problems fitting these…!

Onward and upward. Go the bills….!

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Hollingdrake of Stockport - Triumph car dealer 79
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Hollingdrake of Stockport are the feature business in this post about Standard Triumph car dealers in the Stockport area.

Hollingdrake which started as foundry imported La Buire cars from France early in its history.  Hollingdrake Automobile Co Ltd exhibited La Buire cars at Olympia motor show in 1909. The group had many interested but as demand for cars increased they expanded that side of the business by building, selling and servicing cars.
Hollingdrake Automobile Co Ltd Triumph Dolomite Sprint advert from Motor 23 June 1973
Hollingdrake Automobile Co Ltd Triumph Dolomite Sprint advert from Motor 23 June 1973

Some old press adverts





Death of Mr E N Hodgkinson

Mr E N Hodgkinson director of Hollingdrake of Stockport
Mr E N Hodgkinson director of Hollingdrake of Stockport
The death of Mr E N Hodgkinson was reported in the Standard Triumph Review June 1959:
It is with regret that we record the death of Mr E N Hodgkinson, a joint founder and former Chairman and Managing Director of The Hollingdrake Automobile Co Ltd, Stockport, who have been Standard
Distributors for more than half-acentury.

Mr. Hodgkinson was 83 years of age. His two sons are directors of The Hollingdrake Automobile Co. Ltd; Mr R P Hodgkinson is Managing Director and Mr. E A Hodgkinson is the Group Service Director.

Hollingdrake Automobile Co Ltd - Town Hall Square

Hollingdrake Automobilc Co Ltd, Town Hall Square
Hollingdrake Automobilc Co Ltd, Town Hall Square
When Heron group bought the group they rebranded the building as a Heron business for a period before reverting to using the Hollingdrake name again.
Heron Stockport
Heron Stockport
Later the same building was used by H R Owen and sold Lamborghini cars.  H R Owen moved out to new premises after their lease came to an end in 2014.
Lamborghini Manchester
Lamborghini Manchester
The building has been demolished to make way for a new development on the site.
H R Owen, Town Hall Square, Stockport
H R Owen, Town Hall Square, Stockport

Recovery Truck

Hollingdrake Recovery Lorry
Hollingdrake Recovery Lorry
A Dodge recovery lorry from circa 1938 sign written as being from Hollingdrake of Stockport.

Show and Service Week promotion

Staff from Standard Triumph HQ visited the business and assisted the firm with week long Show and Service promotions.  These were held by the firm at their Bell Street premises: 22 to 26 July 1963.

Subsidiaries and other sites

Hollingdrake Automobilc Co Ltd main site was at Town Hall Square, Stockport.  They had premises in Manchester and Prestbury.

Browetts of Leicester were at one point in their history a Hollingdrake company.

You can read about C A Britten & Co (Liverpool) Ltd who were a another company that was a part of the Hollingdrake group from at least 1958 and possibly earlier.

Hollingdrake Automobile Co Ltd, Princes Drive, Colwyn Bay.

Paramont Garages Ltd of Manchester

Triumph car dealers in Stockport

April 1951
Hollingdrake Automobilc Co Ltd, Town Hall Square,
Smiths of Stockport Ltd, Wellington Road South,

October 1955:
Hollingdrake Automobilc Co Ltd, Town Hall Square, - phone 4464 - Distributor
Drakeson Motor Co Ltd, Wellington Road South, - phone 4249

1959:
Hollingdrake Automobilc Co Ltd, Town Hall Square, - phone 4464 - Distributor
Drakeson Motor Co Ltd, Wellington Road South, - phone 4249
Lane End Motor Co Ltd, 201/207 Welington Road South, - phone 4642/3
Yates Garage (Stockport) Ltd, Hopes Carr, Waterloo Road, - phone 4118

Yates Garage (Stockport) Ltd was incorporated 7 May 1947, it appears to have ceased trading some time ago. The registrar of companies applied to wind up the company from 26 April 1999 but as at todays date it is still reported active.

August 1961:
Hollingdrake Automobilc Co Ltd, Town Hall Square, - phone 4464 - Distributor
Clifton Garage (Cheadle Heath) Ltd, 283 Stockport Road, Cheadle Heath, - phone Gatley 7414
Drakeson Motor Co Ltd, Wellington Road South, - phone 4249
Lane End Motor Co Ltd, 201/207 Welington Road South, - phone 4642/3
Yates Garage (Stockport) Ltd, Hopes Carr, Waterloo Road, - phone 4118

February 1965:
Hollingdrake Automobilc Co Ltd, Town Hall Square, - phone 4464 - Distributor
Drakeson Motor Co Ltd, Wellington Road South, - phone 4249
Performance Motors, 283 Stockport Road, Cheadle Heath, - phone Gatley 7414
Yates Garage (Stockport) Ltd, Hopes Carr, Waterloo Road, - phone 4118 

September 1968, March 1970:
Hollingdrake Automobilc Co Ltd, Town Hall Square, - phone 4464 - Distributor
Central Garage (Reddish) Ltd, 181 Gorton Road, - phone Heaton Moor 2853
Drakeson Motor Co Ltd, Wellington Road South, - phone 4249
Yates Garage (Stockport) Ltd, Hopes Carr, Waterloo Road, - phone 4118

March 1972, March 1974, May 1975:
Hollingdrake Automobilc Co Ltd, Town Hall Square, SK1 3NQ - phone 061-480-4464 - Distributor
Yates Garage (Stockport) Ltd, Hopes Carr, Waterloo Road, SK1 3BQ - phone 061-480-4118

Austin Rover dealers June 1984:
Lex Mead, Wellington Road North, SK4  2PD
The Stockport Motor House Ltd, 35 Buxton Road, SK2 6LZ

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If you have any more information or recollections about Hollingdrake of Stockport, photos of window stickers, dealer badges or sill plates etc please let me know. I can be contacted via the comments to this post or on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/stephen.weblin

Further information and sources

Link to Browetts of Leicester who were at one point in their history a Hollingdrake company

Link to the other articles in this series.

Link to face book page: Triumph Car Dealers.

Link to my Triumph Car Dealers Flickr group .

I have a collection of Standard Triumph car dealer directories: http://vitessesteve.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/triumph-car-dealer-directories.html

Picture credits: Dodge recovery lorryphoto by vg92 on flckr; the old press adverts were posted on the historyworld website in their advert museum;
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K J Motors Ltd and Loxleys of Bromley and Orpington - Triumph car dealer 78
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This blog post is about business that has been known by two different names K J Motors Ltd and Loxleys of Bromley and Orpington.

Loxleys of Bromley and Orpington - Triumph car dealer were first established in Bromley in 1919.

Bromley is both a town and London brough. Orpington is now a town in the London brough of Bromley. Before the creation of Greater London in 1965, Orpington was in the county of Kent.
The business held many different franchises over the years. In 1957 as can seen from these adverts they were selling Vauxhall, Jaguar, Land Rover, Rover and Standard Triumph cars.
K J Motors Ltd 1957 advert 01
K J Motors Ltd 1957 advert 01

K J Motors Ltd 1957 advert 02
K J Motors Ltd 1957 advert 02

Principally based in Bromley and Orpington the business has had several branches over the years. 
K J Motors forecourt
K J Motors forecour Vauxhall and Standard Triumph dealership, Widmore Road, Bromley, Kent.

Owen Wilson Jones

Wilson Jones at Brooklands 1925
Wilson Jones at Brooklands 1925
Owen Wilson Jones was the founder owner and Managing Director of K J Motors.  During the 1920's he raced a Salmon car at hill climbs and speed trails.  He also raced at Brooklands.  He competed in the 200 mile race race at Brooklands in 1924 and broke several class records.
Owen Wilson Jones
Owen Wilson Jones

Brochure

K J Motors Ltd dealer address sticker on a Triumph 2000 brochure
K J Motors Ltd dealer address sticker on a Triumph 2000 brochure

Triumph car dealers in Bromley and Orpington

Key fobs

K J Loxleys key fob
K J Loxleys key fob

Loxleys key fob
Loxleys key fob

Business cards


St Christophers badge


Standard  Triumph training day

This photo was posted by Patrick Uden to the K J Motors facebook group.  Frank Uden is sitting 2nd left at a Standard Triumph Training day in 1955.

Land Rover service


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If you have any more information or recollections about K J Motors Ltd or Loxleys of Bromley and Orpington, photos of window stickers, dealer badges or sill plates etc please let me know. I can be contacted via the comments to this post or on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/stephen.weblin

Further information and sources

Link to the other articles in this series.

Link to post about  Carrs AutoSales Ltd of Croydon

Link to facebook page: Triumph Car Dealers.

Link to my Triumph Car Dealers Flickr group which includes many photos of Standard Triumph garages etc from my collection and many other contributors .

I have a collection of Standard Triumph car dealer directories: http://vitessesteve.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/triumph-car-dealer-directories.html

Picture credits: K J Motors Ltd dealer address sticker on a Triumph 2000 brochure from eBay advert; K J Motors forecourt + business cards + key fobs +1957 Advert + St Christophers badges  photos by Chaz Wells; Owen Wilson Jones photo from https://richdolman.wordpress.com; Key fobs
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FHC resto nr. 75; Boot lock & trim
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Since my last post de (SSD) hard disc of my computer decided to crash in a big way. As a result of which I had to spent a fair amount of time to get it repaired and to reinstall all the software. And as such I wasn’t able to make or report much progress on the car’s restoration. Though I managed to carry out a few small jobs.
The first being the boot lock. I put this job aside for a while because I needed new keys, and I thought it a good idea to take the complete lock with me when I went to visit the local locksmith. Which was a good thing as the original kay was slightly crooked. As a result of which it wasn’t just a matter copying the old key pattern. The new keys needed some tweaking with a key file to get a perfect match with the lock.


With the keys sorted it was time to fit the various parts of the boot lock mechanism to the car, starting with the boot lid’s catch. Which was pretty straight forward as there is no adjustment needed there. After that it was time fit the lock assembly. Also very straight forward ones I managed to wedge a small light inside the boot lid, to see properly where the spring clip had to go. Remained the striker. Took me almost half an hour to get the alignment right. Mainly due to the new seals which press the boot lid upwards a bit. Hopefully that will settle with time:



And as there was still some daylight left I thought it a good idea to have another go at fitting the right hand drip channel trim. Somewhere in the summer I had a first go at fitting this, but after a few failed attempts I decided to try the opposite side. This time I had success as this piece slipped on within a few seconds. Though a second attempt on the other side failed again. Turned out the trim piece had warped slightly during shot blasting and/or coating. As a result of this it looked like an extra pair of hands would be needed to get it on. And every time I visited the shed the following months, I had another go at it and was proofed right time and time again. So when I had finished the boot lid lock I decided to have a final go at the trim piece, and if it would refuse again I would arrange some assistance. I needn’t have worried! In all previous attempts I started from the curve at the front of the doorframe, but this time I decided to start with the straight part above the door behind the curve, and the rest just clicked in position. Indeed a few well spent minutes!


And while fabricating the new gasket for the boot lid’s lock, I thought it a good idea to make a pair of gaskets for the black grill-like black blanking plates that cover the cruise light recess’ in the rear wings. At the bottom of the picture is an original gasket:


 posted Sun 20th Jan 2019
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Standard & Triumph Spares & Service Directory 1951 - Wanted

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Standard & Triumph Spares & Service Directory 1951
Standard & Triumph Spares & Service Directory 1951
I recently found this advert in Standard Car Review December  1951 for the Standard & Triumph Spares & Service Directory 1951.  Looks as if it includes some pictures.  Would love to find a copy can you help?
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Drabble and Allen Ltd of Manchester - Triumph Car Dealers 74D
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This short post is about Drabble and Allen Ltd a Standard Triumph car dealer in Manchester.
Drabble & Allen Ltd TR4 advert
Drabble & Allen Ltd TR4 advert

The earliest record I have is from a Standard Triumph dealer directory dated October 1955 -Drabble & Allen Ltd, Daimler House, Wilmslow Road, Rusholme, 14. - Phone Blackfriars 5635.   The last record I have in March 1974 over the years the records update to include a postcode and revised phone number:M14 5TL - Phone 061 224 2205.
Drabble & Allen Ltd Daimler 2.5 advert
Drabble & Allen Ltd Daimler 2.5 advert

The business was established by Frank Dabble in 1925.  In addition to Standard Triumph cars they also sold Daimler and Jaguar cars. Later the firm sold Subaru and Isuzi cars.  They had several branches including in Manchester, Hale and Ashton under Lyne.  Bought by Grahams Brothers Group then Swan National who in turn were taken over by Lex.

I understand after Stratstone Manchester moved out of the Wilslow Road garage it got demolished except for the frontage which was listed and flats and shops were built behind it.

Tootal Heralds

Tootal take delivery of Triumph Heralds from Drabble & Allen Ltd
Tootal take delivery of Triumph Heralds from Drabble & Allen Ltd

It was reported in the Standard Triumph Review dated June 1963. A fleet of forty Herald 1200s were sold by Standard-Triumph main dealers, Drabble and Allen Ltd of Altrincham, Cheshire to Tootal Broadhurst Lee Co Ltd, the tie people.

Mr J F Moore (left) of Drabble and Allen is handing over one of the keys to Mr. G. R. Leighton, Sales Manager of Tootal Broadhurst Lee.

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If you have any more information or recollections about Drabble and Allen Ltd or any other Standard or Triumph dealer in Manchester such as photos of window stickers, dealer badges or sill plates etc please let me know. I can be contacted via the comments to this post or on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/stephen.weblin

Further information and sources

Link to a list of Manchester area Standard Triumph dealers

Link to the other articles in this series.

Link to facebook page: Triumph Car Dealers.

Link to my Triumph Car Dealers Flickr group which includes many photos of Standard Triumph garages etc from my collection and many other contributors .

I have a collection of Standard Triumph car dealer directories: http://vitessesteve.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/triumph-car-dealer-directories.html

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A G Boyes & Co Ltd of Huddersfield - Triumph car dealers 77
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A G Boyes Co Ltd are the feature business in this post about Standard Triumph car dealers in the Huddersfield area.  The company was established in 1924.

According to an extract from Who's Who in the Motor Industry 1953 which is available on the graceguide.co.uk website A G Boyes Co Ltd were a car and commercial vehicle stockist.  The directors were A G Boyes M.I.M.I.S, S Thornton M.I.M.R.S and R S Hallas MBE.

In 1964 Leonard  Butters and his wife bought A.G. Boyes and  renamed it Boyes Garages.  The business folded in the late 1970s.

Geoff Boycott

Geoff Boycott in a new Herald convertible
Geoff Boycott in a new Herald convertible
Mr. Leonard Butters shows Geoff Boycott the controls of a Herald
Mr. Leonard Butters shows Geoff Boycott the controls of a Herald
It was reported in the Standard Triumph Review of May 1965 that: Geoff Boycott, Yorkshire and England opening batsman, is canny enough to go to a Triumph Distributor for a new car and was also enough of a Yorkshireman to purchase the car before the Budget was announced. In the picture he is seen trying a Herald convertible when he went shopping at A G. Boyes & Co. Ltd., Standard-Triumph Distributors, Huddersfield, at the invitation of Mr. Leonard Butters, Managing Director. Mr. Butters met the England cricketer at a cricket dinner recently, and as a result Mr. Boycott visited the garage at Queensgate and tested many of the cars.

Invoices

A G Boyes Co Ltd invoice 10August 1966
A G Boyes Co Ltd invoice 10August 1966
This A G Boyes Co Ltd invoice from 10 August 1966 shows that the directors at that time were Mr Leonard Butters, Mrs Joan Butters and J C M Smith.
A G Boyes Co Ltd invoice 8 February 1967
A G Boyes Co Ltd invoice 8 February 1967
In 1967 the business had branches at Manchester Road Marsden; Newsome Road, Newsome and Halifax Road, Birchencliffe. 

Views of the buildings

A G Boyes Triumph Herald launch display
A G Boyes Triumph Herald launch display
An alternative view of the garage.
A G Boyes

Dealer address

October 1955, 1959, August 1961:
Distributor: A G Boyes & Co Ltd, East Parade phone 7676/7/8

February 1965, September 1968, March 1970, March 1972, March 1974:
Distributor: A G Boyes & Co Ltd, Queensgate HD1 2JE phone 27676/7/8

March 1974:
Distributor: Boyes Garages (Huddersfield) Ltd, Queensgate HD1 2JE phone 27676/7/8

Show and Service week

Staff from Standard Triumph HQ visited the business and assisted with week long Show and Service promotion at Queensgate 22 to 26 February 1965, 16 to 20 October 1967 and 4 to 8 November 1968.  and at East Parade from 21 to 25 November 1960.

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If you have any more information or recollections about A G Boyes Co Ltd or any other Huddersfield area Standard Triumph dealer such as photos of window stickers, dealer badges or sill plates etc please let me know. I can be contacted via the comments to this post or on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/stephen.weblin

Further information and sources

Link to the other articles in this series.

Link to facebook page: Triumph Car Dealers.

Link to my Triumph Car Dealers Flickr group which includes many photos of Standard Triumph garages etc from my collection and many other contributors .

I have a collection of Standard Triumph car dealer directories: http://vitessesteve.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/triumph-car-dealer-directories.html

Picture credits: Geoff Boycott in a new Herald convertible + Mr. Leonard Butters shows Geoff Boycott the controls of a Herald from the Standard Triumph Review May 1965; Invoices images downloaded from eBID website;
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